Greg Kay and The Third Revolution

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Greg Kay and The Third Revolution

This evening we are going to have a conversation with a good friend, Gregory Kay, which we actually first discussed having at least three years ago, before we shared the common experience of Hurricane Michael. Coming from West Virginia, Greg moved to Panama City Beach, where we had gotten to know him personally only a short time before that hurricane had disrupted both of our lives. However we probably knew him from Social Media and from our common membership in the League of the South for at least a couple of years before we actually met in person.

Greg is a long-time Southern Nationalist, he has been involved with the League of the South as well as with other Nationalist causes, such as the Southern National Congress, and he has also written a series of novels which portray our common struggle through fictional but realistic characters who prevailed through incredible but plausible circumstances. The books are not really new, as the series was published between 2004 and 2011, but they are as fresh as new to anyone who has not yet read any of them. That much I know, because I just read most of the first book in the series over the last 24 hours. [The only archaic technology that stood out was the mention of cameras which still used tape.]

The character development in the first book is quite good, and the reader can actually become fond of them, or fond of despising them, quite easily. Not all of the goats in the story have Jewish names, but a sufficient number of them do. The main protagonists are unwitting “normies”, as we would call them, who are forced into flight, and then into the fight, by the wicked deeds of their own superiors, and who are both rescued and recruited by men who waited decades for the opportunity with which the story presents them.

See Greg's author's page at

All of this compels us to ask Greg about the reasons for conceiving and writing the series, but first we would want to know more about his own real-life experiences as a long-time Southern Nationalist, which is just as important a reason why we invited him here this evening.

The Third Revolution was dedicated to Michael Westerman:

SPRINGFIELD, Tenn. (AP) _ Two black teen-agers were found guilty of murder Friday in the shooting of a white man who was flying a Confederate flag in the rear of his pickup truck. A third black teen-ager was acquitted.

Freddie Morrow and Damien Darden, both 18, were immediately sentenced to life in prison for the 1995 slaying of 19-year-old Michael Westerman, who was shot from a moving car. - Read more:

From the advertisement for the book:

THE THIRD REVOLUTION is the first installment in a four book series chronicling a second War for Southern Independence, from its inception in Columbia, South Carolina, to its international aftermath. The series takes a hard, pragmatic look at often uncomfortable subjects like war and race, love and loyalty, and the best and the worst of human nature, and pulls no punches. Needless to say, it is not politically correct.

The book is the first in a series, the other titles being THE LONG KNIVES, THE BLACK FLAG, and THE WARLORD.

It's the 21st century, and the South is rising again!

When a peaceful demonstration over a Confederate Battle Flag goes horribly wrong, two strangers - police officer Frank Gore and reporter Samantha Norris - find themselves running for their lives. Labeled "terrorists" an pursued by covert government death squads through a South torn by depression, racial tensions, and martial law, their only chance for survival lies with a bitterly divided band of Rebel guerrillas. Faced with a conflict that threatens to split both the Union and the races irrevocably, and the dawning realization that there are no good guys in war, only survivors, they begin to wonder if it's really much of a chance at all.

Torn by duty, allegiance, and their own growing closeness, in a world where nothing is what it seems and no one can be trusted, they're forced to answer the ultimate question:

When passions simmering for a century and a half explode...
When telling the truth becomes a terrorist act...
When paranoid fantasy become reality...
How far would you go to survive THE THIRD REVOLUTION?

My synopsis of the book:

An ominous geopolitical situation creates oil shortages followed by domestic unrest, dire economic straits and and degenerating social conditions which in turn lead to inevitable martial law and domestic tyranny. Northern cities begin exploiting domestic politics in order to siphon off the resources and produce of the South, just as they had before what Greg would call the second revolution in 1861. Later in the book, he explains that in the mouth of one of his characters. At the same time, as unrest grows in the South, the federal government begins to ban Confederate symbols, flags and monuments. But all of this is mere background, at least in this first of a four-part series, and creates a situation which only lights the fuse of an already-loaded cannon.

A demonstration protesting the removal of a Confederate flag in South Carolina turns violent, as White Southerners protesting the removal of a flag are confronted by black counter-demonstrators. The violence broke out, appropriately, by what was the last, and probably even the first act of defiant heroism on the part of an aging lawyer who was also the head of one softline Southern Nationalist group. During the melee, at least most of the cops seem to be neutral, but when the old White man attacks the politicians who were there to remove a flag with his cane, black counter-protestors rush through the lines, assisted by one black cop who then starts randomly shooting and killing White demonstrators. Many of the other cops panicked, thinking that they were being shot at by White demonstrators, and returned fire on a group of innocent unarmed civilians.

But the media immediately demonizes the Whites as having launched an organized attack with military precision as part of a racist conspiracy, while portraying the black couter-demonstrators as heroes who had come to the aid of the politicians. Of course, none of that was true, but there were open attempts on the part of the government to suppress alternate accounts from being published. The story has all of the expected elements, whiggers, uncle toms, al sharpton imitators, power-hungry federal thugs, jewish carpetbaggers from New York who are in important positions in the South, a manipulative liberal media which cooperates with government-produced fake news designed to invert reality, in a script containing several themes that were played out at Charlottesville 14 years after this book was published. Only this version had more immediate consequences, as it quickly evolves into what Greg calls “The Third Revolution”.

  • First, what compelled you to write such a book? You must have had all four parts thought out, at least in a rough framework, even before you began writing the first. It also had to be based on at least some of your own experience. I don’t know if a complete outside could write such a book.

  • The book describes underground networks of Southern nationalists, some who seem to have carefully awaited their opportunity, even if they do not act too quickly, until they are forced to act by the circumstances. It also portrays the internal philosophical struggles among Nationalists, especially over the issue of race, the infiltration by federal agents into various factions, and the lack of trust among sincere nationalists which are caused by those circumstances. Then among the different types of Nationalists, there are even further divisions and rivalries which prevent unity, which are related to religion or political sympathies, or even more trivial matters. So aside from the character development necessary for a novel, it does offer potential nationalists a lot to consider, while offering an indictment of the so-called movement.

  • Greg, even though you deny it in an appendix, it is easy to imagine that at least some of the characters were patterned after real-life Southern Nationalists, either individuals or organizations. I wouldn’t try to name any names or make any accusations, but we would certainly agree that the criticisms of those participating in the movement or, more appropriately, The Cause are indeed warranted.

  • For those reasons, I would recommend this book to young or potential Southern Nationalists, as many come into the movement full of ideals and energies which are quickly worn down by both the infighting on one side, and the lack of opportunity to expend those energies on the other. In my opinion, many people come into Southern Nationalism like balls of fire, only to extinguish quickly because they are not prepared for what is more reasonably a long hard road ahead.

  • By the end of the first book in the series, the head of the softline group is exposed as a federal agent and a traitor, who had purposely kept all of the groups involved on a course of inaction. But other groups are pushed to the hard right and inevitably realize that they must cooperate, if not completely agree, with the hardline racially Nationalist groups that were previsouly regarded as anathema. This to me is indeed what is necessary, but it seems that most Southern Nationalists won’t get it until they themselves are brought to suffer, just as some of your characters had also suffered.

  • Do you think your book may have helped influence any changes among Southern Nationalists since its publication? Or have they only hardened their positions where they continue to differ? The Sons of Confederate Veterans comes to mind in this regard, but I don’t think they would ever even participate in any cooperation with other more hard-line groups. In fact, Richard Jameson, your traitor, seems to have policies that reflect their own. Has it at least inspired discussions in this area? I think it should.

  • Of course, being Christians we understand that we are not going to dismantle Babylon on our own. But in your appendix you warned that this book is not a manual, and you discourage people from doing these things at home, which is something with which I find it hard to disagree, at least for many of us. But it does seem to represent a good outline suggesting certain things which ultimately must be done, if we as Southerners are going to survive the wrath to come.

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