Christogenea Open Forums

As usual, these Open Forums have a slow start. One friend asked about Texe Marrs, to whom I have not spent any time reading or listening in 15 years. Texe is an apparently Christian “conspiracy theorist” who, in my opinion, continually misses the mark, and always will miss the mark. So he is really just another rabbit hole, or perhaps, rabbi hole. I offer this opinion here because I did not spend much time on the subject in the Forum.

Finding comfort and encouragement in Scripture. The comfort in prayer. The correlation between thought and prayer.

Kirk Weaver’s beginnings as an Identity Christian, starting in the 1980’s. I had noted that there were two other long-time Identity Christians present, our good friend Bruce Bohn, who founded the Christian Identity group on Gab, and Debbie Downey, a good friend and the widow of pastor Mark Downey. Unfortunately, Bruce had troubles with his microphone, but we hope to speak to him at an Open Forum soon.

The significance of Christian Identity as the prophesied Elijah ministry of the last days. The origin of the label “Christian Identity”. I should have mentioned the fact that Christian Identity is not a denomination. Rather, it is a worldview grounded in Scripture and proper view of history which is fully supported by archaeology. Some of the divisions and differences within Christian Identity.

“Big G”, an Identity Christian from Philadelphia, and his experiences at work and at home.

A brief discussion of American pioneer Davy Crockett, who was also a U.S. Congressman from the State of Tennessee for several terms in the 1820’s and 30’s. At one point in that career, Crockett gave an excellent speech to his fellow Congressman titled “The Public's Money Is Not Yours to Give”, which I had discussed at length in a 2017 presentation titled The Protocols of Satan, Part 29: Constitutional Vanity. This led to a brief discussion of soldiering for the empire, and the evils of taking money from the citizenry in order to fight foreign wars on behalf of international merchants.

Towards the end of this Forum Erick raised the subject of the Parable of the Ten Virgins found in Matthew chapter 25. Here we did not discuss every aspect of the parable, but I made a reference to a recent Wednesday Bible Study which may be found at our Media site: Christogenea Bible Study - August 7/24 - Matthew 24:29 - 51, Matthew 25

Of course many other topics were discussed beyond or in relation to these.

• Keith, formerly of Truth Militia, the trial of his wife’s colon cancer diagnosis, and how she has overcome it.
• Evils of modern industrial farming methods.
• The immoral state of modern Germany.
• The folly of worldly leaders and solutions to modern woes.
• Decadence in the US military.
• Hollywood influence over public consciousness is never called into question.
• The Jewish mass murderers and school shooters.
• Timothy McVeigh, Project Megiddo Report
• Putting away sinners, race-mixers & Sodomites of one’s own family or children.
• The evils of vaccines, the Covid vaccines and cancer.
• Criticizing Comparet for his interpretation of ἄτομος in 1 Corinthians 15:52.
• Fellowship and denominational churches.
• Miscellaneous banter.

The audio file embedded below has better sound levels. It is missing a few seconds at the start, but it is of somewhat better quality. It is ten minutes longer, because whitespace was not removed. It may be downloaded by clicking HERE. For my part, I had a lot of tech challenges this evening, evidently from a Firefox browser update, and a bad cellphone connection.

Among the topics discussed:

• The failures of secular White Nationalism and the shills in its “leadership”. The failure of politics.
• Lands of Israel in Kingdom of Yahweh, where will the Kingdom of God be located?
• Organization of the coming Kingdom of God in light of the Judges period.
• Scope and purpose of the prophecy of Isaiah
• Old Testament is a Christian book. No Jew can possibly understand the Old Testament. Christians are wrong to look to Jews for Biblical understanding.
• Biblical minimalism is Jewish and that, along with the Talmud, help to prove beyond doubt that Jews are not the people of the Old Testament.
• Society conditioned to believe that Jews are experts in all fields. All of the “experts” cited in media reports seem to be Jews.
• The barriers to Christian fellowship and the challenges they bring.
• The high trust and low trust societies and game theory as seen in real life.
• The state of many White Nationalist groups as front groups and honeypots for government agencies or Jewish NGOs.
• Chances of society or military succeeding with majority non-White memberships.
• Jews, fallen angels, their first sin, and the bastardization of creation.
• Hawaii, Texas, Florida and the erosion of the American empire.
• What to do with people programmed by the world, who see everything through jewish eyes.
• Isaiah chapter 47 and parallels with Revelation chapter 18.
• The significance of understanding the prophets, the New Testament and the Revelation in harmony.
• Pharmaceuticals, Covid and newspaper eschatology
• The fear porn circling around recent cellphone outage attributed to “solar flares”, food plant fires, train derailments.
• Odd weather patterns throughout the past winter.
• A porn star kills herself at 36: the plight of women in the judaized society.
• Another failure of secular White Nationalism: Donald Trump is just another dupe and he is not a savior.
• The true meanings of the words mister, master, and lord.

And more!

Just before 5:00 PM US Eastern time on Tuesday, November 28th, 2023 I replaced the original .mp3 file as it seemed to be skipping ahead, or for at least one listener, interminably looping at around 29:05 minutes. I apologize for any inconvenience. - wmfinck

Among the topics discussed:
 

• The recent protests in Ireland, and the relative lack of protests in France under similar circumstances.
• Genesis chapter 6 – fallen angels, their descendants, or both?
• Marks on your forehead and arms: Phylacteries and the true meaning of the law in Deuteronomy 6:8 and 11:18.
• Did Isaiah 27:1 have a dual fulfillment?
• Differences between races in cognitive and inventive abilities, craniology, or phrenology, and brain development.
• The perceived seat of a man's emotions in Greek philosophy and Hebrew Scriptures.
• Empathy, emotions, altruism, intelligence capabilities among the races.
• Evolution vs. Adaptation. Adaptation and genetic expression.
• Racial intelligence, IQ, and the capacity for learning, intelligence and motivation, the uselessness of rote memory i.e. the advantage of knowledge vs. memorizing trivia.
• Abilities of the Nephilim, origins of technology
• Scripture should not contradict itself; an analogy comparing Scriptural interpretation to computer programming which was made here at Christogenea long ago. The point being that when a verse is interpreted, it cannot contradict any other verse in the Bible, or the interpretation will upset the whole program.
• Reading Scripture with an intent to conform. The corruption of Christian doctrine in the early church. Preterism, Futurism, and the Catholic Church.
• Newspaper eschatology: Current events and fear porn
• The words adult and adulterate are from different Latin words, and not related directly, at least.
• Our modern apostasy, of which the apostles warned. Paganism is Judaism.
• The Torah, the Talmud, and Baby Rape, along with other damnable precepts of Judaism.
• Dustin Nemos is trolling and grifting Identity Christians as he promotes and defends his own race-mixing.
• Ezekiel 37:25 in light of 2 Samuel 7:10, and also the promises that Israel would inherit the world.
• Understanding prophecy with hindsight, but not having the ability to use it to predict the future.
• Revelation 20, Satan’s having been released from the pit and the emancipation of the Jews.
• Food laws, fat, kidneys and other organs: Is the eating of organs prohibited in the Law?
• Seven-year land Sabbath: Should farmers, and even individuals, still follow the land sabbath? Jubilees.
• The laws of dowry and the rape of virgins leading to marriage, Deuteronomy chapter 22. Jacob and Laban.
• Freemasonry and Albert Pike, the supposed letter to Mazzini. The Knight's Templars.

Among the subjects discussed this evening:

• Interpreting the “kings of the east” reference in Revelation chapter 16. Asiatic billionaires and some aspects of their influence over Western governance.
• Will there be Marriage after the Resurrection? The difficulties of speculating about life in the Kingdom of Heaven. The words of Christ concerning marriage after the Resurrection.
• What to do on the Sabbath? The “rest” of Joshua.
• Why is natural selection only applied to animals, and governments seek to prevent it among humans? The lack of consciousness among the other so-called races, and the impossibility of converting them.
• How did angels get wings?
• The Trojan horse of "smart cities". Twitter, Elon Musk and the ADL. VPNs and Jewish attempts to control the internet.
• Medieval fairy tales and the wisdom of knowing that evil is genetic, in old tales about Witches, ogres, and trolls which taught children about good and evil people. Stories of trolls or leprechauns and gold are warnings of Jews (quip: leprechaun = “leper cohen”). Japanese tengu creatures relating to same phenomenon.
• Class warfare promoted by Jews.
• Deuteronomy 6:8 and wearing the law on one’s hand and between one’s eyes.
• The death of Herod and the nature of his illness.
• Secular White Nationalism, White Sharia, Islam and anti-racism. Muslims and usury.
• Rachel, indirectly cursed by Jacob, was punished and died young because she stole the household gods of her father Laban, and therefore also wanted to steal his estate from her brothers.
• The contrasting personalities of Esau and Jacob, hairy vs. smooth.
• Spirits and unclean spirits vs. phantasma, or apparitions. “Soul sleep”.
• Yahweh God, the hardening of pharaoh’s heart, the the free will of man.
• Politics, parties, compromise and betrayal. Reasons for leaving the League of the South. The lesson of Gideon.
• Benjamin Franklin on race, Blonde vs. Brunette in Europe. Tawny or brunet brethren vs. Arabs, and the Gospel dividing the wheat and tares.
• Catholics, and most mainstream Christians do not read the Bible. The pattern of our critics having not read the Bible. 

Among the topics discussed:

Joe on the Dogcast, our name for the so-called “Godcast”, who was going later in the evening to defend our Christian Identity profession against Lutheran and Orthodox heretics. Profession of belief, works of man required in Judeo Christian salvation, the Church Fathers and early Gnosticism and neo-platonism; scope of the New Covenant; scope of the words world and man, Martin Luther and “all the world”, by which he meant all of Europe; Heman and Ethan of 1 Kings 4:31 and the 88th and 89th Psalms were not necessarily immediate sons of Mahol, and lived in David's time; salvation, works and rewards.

The old saying "Ignorance is bliss" must have been coined by inverting Ecclesiastes 1:18: "For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."

Churches teach self-righteousness, accept sinners, lead men to atheism or agnosticism; names as premonitions, i.e. Laban, Judith; the conception of the Messiah in first century Judaea: Christ as a warrior Messiah or suffering Messiah; the apocryphal Psalms and the Dead Sea Srolls; living in Babylon: the corrupt modern society, the fall of Babylon discussion and speculation; Gehenna, Hades and the Lake of Fire; Finding Christian Identity and the obligations and responsibility of knowledge; the Jewish gaslighting of words like "homophobe".

The four Greek words with various shades of meaning are all “love” in the English bibles; Zechariah chapter 14 and those who do not “keep the feast”; sobriety and temperance, is it okay to drink wine or beer? ; charity and how to do it; White nationalist failures; morality and war; is Psalm 151 canonical?

The importance of the next generation; burial or cremation? Is cremation acceptable?; the spirit and the body as a vessel; the apostle John in his later life, John’s witness of the passion of Christ; raising children in truth; the fate of children miscarried or born; and more…

Monday, May 1st, 10:00 AM: Evidently, our sound editor had left a 15 minute gap at an edit point in the final hour of the recording, however there was no missing content. The gap has now been repaired, and we apologize for any inconvenience. 

Among the topics discussed: Why should Christians endeavor to keep the law?; Why would Yahweh “allow” the fallen angels to corrupt men?; Should a woman who is a widowed mother rule a household?; How would people “come out” of Mystery Babylon after it falls?; The media chatter over monkeypox fizzled: only 38 apparent sodomites in the U.S. died of monkeypox and 33 of them were black; Discipline, work and sleep habits; Materialism; young men and vocations; The meanings of Hebrew words for branch, Nazarene and Nazarite; Was Samuel a Nazarite?; Jacob and Esau, debate over the birthright; Danny Updegraff talks about early Christian Identity, Bill Gale and Jeanne Snyder; Indians, Canaanites and Casinos; Deception in the Judaized churches…

This Open Forum had a slow start, and improved as the evening progressed. Some participants evidently had technical problems with their microphones and could not participate. The server is in line for an upgrade.

I will publish a short list of subjects here soon...

Some of the subjects discussed throughout the program:

The ADL / InfoWars / Kanye West / Nick Fuentes / Donald Trump / Elon Musk media-driven circus, and why Christians should have no care for any of the clowns. Perhaps “Kanye didn’t kill Yeself” might be a t-shirt in the near future (/sarcasm).

Why there is not going to be another great White organization or leader who can be effective on a national or international scale. The next, and the only valid, great White leader is Christ.

The Christian duty to advocate for truth amongst other Whites in real life, and the misuse of social media. Christians should focus on developing and fostering local communities of like-minded people. This was the strategy of the earliest Christians as they awaited the fall of Jerusalem, and Rome.

The unconquerable Adamic spirit and the inability of the enemies of God to destroy the Adamic man, regardless of what happens in this world. The salt of the earth.

The evils of globalism and the rewriting or fabrication of the history of non-White nations, and now White, mostly by Communists. The disproportionate burden of taxes and the social services infrastructure on White taxpayers. Proposed reparations payments to negros by the State of California is a communist agenda.

Answering some who would obfuscate the purpose of Yahweh God in the flood of Noah: Does the Bible promote the nurture of bastards? Further discussion on the eternal Adamic spirit, which has been the subject of recent podcasts at Christogenea.

The humanism and paganism which underlie supposedly Christian rituals, and the fact that Christians are not expected to conduct rituals by Christ or His apostles. The pagan aspects of other Church doctrines or traditions. The non-authority of Christian so-called “priests”, a concept which did not exist before the 4th century.

And more...

This evening we spoke with some of our friends about whether there would be law in the Kingdom of God, King James Only Identity Christians, the nature of the Melchizedek priesthood and the differences in the Patriarchal chronology between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint, and many other subjects. I may have metioned that while the patriarchs may have lived much longer than we do today, they also had children much later than we do today, so proportionately there is a similar balance.

On a couple of occasions, Joe from the Christogenea Forum mentioned the Corrupted Priesthood of the second temple in relation to Genesis chapter 4, for which I had looked back at my Malachi commentary. Now I realize that I may have discussed that connection even more deeply than I had in the commentary, as I merely gave it a notice. So Joe elaborated on the subject quite well as it helps to corroborate Clifton's assertions in his paper The Battle for the Priesthood.

Walttheof mentioned the story of Og of Bashan's having survived the flood of Noah, which is actually according to a ridiculous interpretation found in the Aramaic Targums. There I may have reconciled our mean opinion of that account with our citation of the Targums in relation to Genesis chapter 4. Yet where we have cited the Targums, I have not held them as being authoritative. Rather, I have in the past explained that they only represent attempts by early writers to understand and reconcile the Scriptures, even if they sometimes fail.

Many other subjects were discussed, and even some current events. We thank everyone who participated!

This evening a group of our friends tackled many questions which Christians may face today, concerning the role of women in the community, what Christians should be doing before the promised fall of Babylon, the obligation to have children, and many other day-to-day subjects. Having what we may perceive to be free will, could there once again be rebellion against Yahweh after the Resurrection? How could we even answer that question?  The difference between what theologians generally identify as the Divine Will and the Permissive Will of Yahweh God.

Due to a last minute cancellation of our scheduled program, this evening we decided to simply have a conversation with some of our friends. A variety of topics were discussed.

Various conversations with some of our friends. Is the Earth truly flat? Does the Bible say so? Will all Israel really be saved? Answering a whole lot of heresy, why don't so-called Christians actually believe the Bible?

An evening with our brethren as the world sinks into oblivion on yet another change in its calendar year, we await the acceptable year of our Lord, Yahshua Christ!

Taking a break from our commentary on the Song of Songs, this evening we had a long discussion with some of our friends. Several different topics were discussed. Thanks to all who participated, you certainly are appreciated. Praise Yahweh!

Taking a break from our commentary on the epistles of John as we prepare to travel this weekend, this evening we had a long discussion with some of our friends. Several different topics were discussed. Thanks to all who participated, you certainly are appreciated. Praise Yahweh!

Taking a brief hiatus between the Wisdom of Solomon and our coming commentary on the epistles of John, this evening we had a long discussion with some of our friends. Several different topics were discussed. Thanks to all who participated, you certainly are appreciated. Praise Yahweh!

Being on a road trip which has kept us much busier than we could have anticipated, this evening we decided to host another Open Forum. Here we discussed certain heresies which have been introduced into some supposedly Christian Identity circles, and the need for maintaining consistent fundamental principles in Biblical interpretation and in the formulation of sound Christian doctrine, among other things.
 

Thanks to all who participated, you certainly are appreciated. Praise Yahweh!

While we did not really speak much about Christogenea, that is okay, there are certainly more pressing matters to speak about. So the recent events in Washington DC and certain Identity Christians who have renewed the heresy of the Trinity Doctrine were the subjects which consumed most of the evening.

There were still some minor technical problems, but we are improving. We hope to do an Open Forum at least once each quarter this coming year, so we will do this again in early April!

This evening we had another open forum discussion with some of our Forum Members and friends. Many topics of immediate interest to Identity Christians were discussed, and especially the methods of our approach to Scripture and why we hold them dear.

Also: Vindication on our series of commentaries on The Arab Question.