Christogenea Open Forums

• The recent commentary on Isaiah chapter 57 and how it agrees with Two-Seedline and the parables of the Wheat and Tares, and Sheep and Goats.

• Real Jews and Khazars, the mistakes of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and others in blindly accepting the so-called “Khazar theory”, which did not start with Arthur Koestler and which is only half true.

• Jewish and muslim gaslighting, while there is really only one Abrahamic religion: Christianity.

• Mystery Babylon, where we are in the Revelation, the Camp of the Saints, etc.

• All empires have always had aspects of what we call liberalism today, especially egalitarianism.

• The early development of the Roman empire outside of Italy was for seemingly benevolent purposes.

• Varieties of and possible ancestors of sub-Saharan Africans. Homo ergaster, Australopithecus Africanus.

• Amish men on a beach vacation in north Florida?

• Short discussion of forced conversions of Edomites under John Hycanus, Aristobulus I and Alexander Jannaeus.

• Was Alexander of Macedon a sodomite? Was Nero a sodomite? The differences between the veracity of the two accounts.

• Should Christians seek or requests signs from God? The examples of Gideon and others.

• The Tyler Oliveira exposure of Jews in New Jersey, Nick Shirley videos as possible vehicles to awaken more Whites to Jewish treachery.

• Mohammad was at least part Jewish, Islam was a product of Jews. Discussions on the impact of Islam on Europe.

• Chronology fiddlers who claim that 700 years or longer were somehow surreptitiously added to the calendars, so that they did not really exist, are absolutely false and absurd, even ridiculous, and a brief explanation as to why.

• Where was Jesus from ages 12 to 30? The Gospel says He was with His parents.

• How Roman popes bribed early Christian bishops in Britain with the relics of the saints in order to allure them into the Catholic fold.

• Sin, confessions, and the organization of the priesthood around sacraments, contrary to Christianity… and more!

What follows is a brief list of some of the topics discussed in the Forum:

• An experience for an Identity Christian marrying into a Catholic family.

• Necromancy, Saul and Samuel, was it really Samuel?

• Artaxerxes, Cambyses and Cyrus and the use or appearance of these names in Ezra and Nehemiah.

• Los Lunas Inscription – Is it real?

• Born again and the Catholic Vulgate.

• Marcion and Ebionites rejecting portions of Scripture.

• Kings mentioned in Daniel and chapters apparently out of order.

• Necromancy – the dynamic is different after Christ than it had been before Christ.

• Jephtha’s daughter dedicated to tabernacle in wilderness, not slain.

• Missing data in books of Kings and Chronicles?

• Strabo and White Syrians, Neo-pagan attitudes towards the Classics.

• Strabo, Idumaeans and Nabataeans.

• Dan, Danaans, Cyrus Gordon, Jewish attitudes towards archaeological truths.

• Jewish media dehumanization of Christians, just as they dehumanized Nazis.

• Schindler’s List is a fictional work.

• Orthodox Jews and welfare fraud.

• White altruism coupled with Jewish gaslighting prevents Whites from seeing Jewish evil.

• Chemtrails were patented to inhibit “global warming” by Hughes Aircraft Co. in 1990.

• Christianity, Goths and Alans.

• Are Jews behind the rise in “antisemitism” in ways that are not obvious?

• Christianity and the Crusades as a weak and late response to Islamic conquest.

• Diminishing beef supply in United States

• Treaty of Arbroath, Remonstrance of the Irish Kings, Milesians from Phoenicia

• Arabs in Siciliy and Italy early 9th century, but in Greece too?

• Descriptions of yellow-haired Greeks, Phoenicians in Classical and Hellenistic literature.

• If Jesus was a Jew, Jews would worship Jesus…

And more!

Mainstream Archaeological settlement of Europe and Biblical and Classical settlement of Europe; Political traitors in 20th century Europe; Global warming vs. natural cycles of warming and cooling; Ice age Europe and movements of Germanic tribes into Europe in period of warming; Political state in Britain, Australia and Europe and the complete lack of free speech; Diversity programming in early American cartoons; Jews in Medieval England, Edward I, Henry VIII, Cromwell etc; Treachery among modern politicians, the failure of politics; Absurdities of Holocaust accounts and how incredulous it is that people believe them; Asian Indians in the West, ownership of motels, etc, how they tend to trade in vice even in their “convenience” stores; Vaccines and the churches, organ transplants and necromancy; Power of fathers in a patriarchal society; Internet spread of information contrary to Jewish desire to control the flow of information; Early dissidents on the internet; Faults of the sovereign citizen movement; Paganism vs Christianity; and much more!

What follows is a brief list of some of the topics discussed in the Forum:

• Who was Paul referring to in 2 Corinthians chapter 12 where he said “I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago”? Not to himself!

• The recent Jerm Warfare interviews.

• Study and belief, the necessity of study in order to support belief.

• Why Wikipedia says William Gale was a jew, an email message of which I had lost track.

• The “nigger fatigue” phenomenon and the plagues of locusts, caterpillars, palmerworms and cankerworms of Joel chapter 3.

• South African refugees, Christian Identity among the Boers.

• Irish slaves in colonial America and the Caribbean.

• DNA testing and 23&Me.

• Is Salome the daughter of Mary? Discussing the Greek grammar, she is not.

• The words of Christ in Acts Chapter 1, why did He profess not knowing the time when He would return? The Will of God is not revealed to the flesh until God wills.

• What are bad words and filthy communications? The obstacle of self-righteousness is overcome in the revelation that only God and His law are righteous.

• The Lake of Fire, a physical place or an allegory for a cessation of existence?

• The Christian Identity perspective of the Bible assures that the Bible is true within the context of ancient history.

• Corrupt politicians, Epstein, child trafficking, no forthcoming justice even when guilt is understood. We should not expect Epstein’s papers to ever released, or any further arrests to be made.

• The challenges of persuading our brethren to the truths expressed in Christian Identity.

• The experience with the League of the South and the debacle at Charlottesville.

And more…

The cost of other races, especially negros, on Society. Worship of the healthcare system in general population. Jewish reliance on healthcare, especially due to the large number of genetic diseases Jews carry. The repulsiveness of organ and blood donations. Jews strive through science to find eternal life. The papacy and the beast of Revelation associated as early as the 14th century Reformers. The Kabbalah in medieval academia. Why did the Church pursue bringing other races into Christianity. Crypto-Jews in Society – do they know they’re Jews? Crypto-Jews infiltrating White groups in order to subvert and divide and weaken them by planting doubt in the hearts of the unsuspecting. Our own recent example was “Ed Whiff”, who turned out to be a morbidly obese huckster.  James Wickstrom, Dan Gayman, the start of William Finck’s relationship with Clifton Emahiser, and more.… Danny Updegraff on William Gale. Jews and Sodomites who lead the alt-Right and other “hard right” or “right wing” dissident groups. Eurasia, Turks, and Mongols, any possibility of a diffusion of Asian influences in medieval Europe. And much more…

If you cannot overlook some adult language, you need not listen. There is no list of good and bad words in Scripture, and you may even condemn the language of Scripture itself.  So while I may not condone it, I cannot condemn anyone for it, and if we do we may find ourselves to be even greater hypocrites when we stand before our Judge. If you think these Open Forums could be better, well, we can all be better. Join the next one and see if you can't make it better. 

James Wickstrom & Pastor Bob, Wickstrom admits having meetings with Federal Agents

Pages from Yori Kahl's book, Writ of Habeus Corpus, reproduced an affadavit from an FBI agent who had attested that Wickstrom was a federal informant. I have a copy of the book on our shelves, but it is still available at Amazon.com and elsewhere. 

The new Christogenea website - Christian Identity as a theological and historical worldview, and the importance of being able to defend it - Directions for future Bible commentaries - Commentaries, what should be said vs what can be said - Politics, voting, engagement in the political system - The Trump phenomenon, even among Identity Christians - Trump and immigration policy - Pagans, Norse or Greeks, all of their gods are rapists and perverts - Missing Biblical literature available to Solomon and Paul - Genesis 10 Nations and the importance of showing they were all White – Back to immigration, towns overrun with illegal immigrants - Indians in the tech industry and other banter about Indian and Mexican inabilities – Mainstream attitudes towards Adolf Hitler – Christian Identity is the promised Elijah ministry and that is where Identity Christians should focus their efforts - God comes before family; putting man before God is idolatry - Differences in the circumstances of boomer and gen-xers when they were young, as compared to those of millennials and zoomers, who have it much harder and are often naturally disaffected from society - “White” as a descriptor for Europeans and why it was not necessary to use such a term for most of history - Most people would rather live in lies than leave their comfort zone and face the Truth – A lot of discussion relating to Identity Christians dealing with the challenges of everyday life, and more, of course… including Big G and the end of those who bring bastards into their families.

As usual, these Open Forums have a slow start. One friend asked about Texe Marrs, to whom I have not spent any time reading or listening in 15 years. Texe is an apparently Christian “conspiracy theorist” who, in my opinion, continually misses the mark, and always will miss the mark. So he is really just another rabbit hole, or perhaps, rabbi hole. I offer this opinion here because I did not spend much time on the subject in the Forum.

Finding comfort and encouragement in Scripture. The comfort in prayer. The correlation between thought and prayer.

Kirk Weaver’s beginnings as an Identity Christian, starting in the 1980’s. I had noted that there were two other long-time Identity Christians present, our good friend Bruce Bohn, who founded the Christian Identity group on Gab, and Debbie Downey, a good friend and the widow of pastor Mark Downey. Unfortunately, Bruce had troubles with his microphone, but we hope to speak to him at an Open Forum soon.

The significance of Christian Identity as the prophesied Elijah ministry of the last days. The origin of the label “Christian Identity”. I should have mentioned the fact that Christian Identity is not a denomination. Rather, it is a worldview grounded in Scripture and proper view of history which is fully supported by archaeology. Some of the divisions and differences within Christian Identity.

“Big G”, an Identity Christian from Philadelphia, and his experiences at work and at home.

A brief discussion of American pioneer Davy Crockett, who was also a U.S. Congressman from the State of Tennessee for several terms in the 1820’s and 30’s. At one point in that career, Crockett gave an excellent speech to his fellow Congressman titled “The Public's Money Is Not Yours to Give”, which I had discussed at length in a 2017 presentation titled The Protocols of Satan, Part 29: Constitutional Vanity. This led to a brief discussion of soldiering for the empire, and the evils of taking money from the citizenry in order to fight foreign wars on behalf of international merchants.

Towards the end of this Forum Erick raised the subject of the Parable of the Ten Virgins found in Matthew chapter 25. Here we did not discuss every aspect of the parable, but I made a reference to a recent Wednesday Bible Study which may be found at our Media site: Christogenea Bible Study - August 7/24 - Matthew 24:29 - 51, Matthew 25

Of course many other topics were discussed beyond or in relation to these.

• Keith, formerly of Truth Militia, the trial of his wife’s colon cancer diagnosis, and how she has overcome it.
• Evils of modern industrial farming methods.
• The immoral state of modern Germany.
• The folly of worldly leaders and solutions to modern woes.
• Decadence in the US military.
• Hollywood influence over public consciousness is never called into question.
• The Jewish mass murderers and school shooters.
• Timothy McVeigh, Project Megiddo Report
• Putting away sinners, race-mixers & Sodomites of one’s own family or children.
• The evils of vaccines, the Covid vaccines and cancer.
• Criticizing Comparet for his interpretation of ἄτομος in 1 Corinthians 15:52.
• Fellowship and denominational churches.
• Miscellaneous banter.

The audio file embedded below has better sound levels. It is missing a few seconds at the start, but it is of somewhat better quality. It is ten minutes longer, because whitespace was not removed. It may be downloaded by clicking HERE. For my part, I had a lot of tech challenges this evening, evidently from a Firefox browser update, and a bad cellphone connection.

Among the topics discussed:

• The failures of secular White Nationalism and the shills in its “leadership”. The failure of politics.
• Lands of Israel in Kingdom of Yahweh, where will the Kingdom of God be located?
• Organization of the coming Kingdom of God in light of the Judges period.
• Scope and purpose of the prophecy of Isaiah
• Old Testament is a Christian book. No Jew can possibly understand the Old Testament. Christians are wrong to look to Jews for Biblical understanding.
• Biblical minimalism is Jewish and that, along with the Talmud, help to prove beyond doubt that Jews are not the people of the Old Testament.
• Society conditioned to believe that Jews are experts in all fields. All of the “experts” cited in media reports seem to be Jews.
• The barriers to Christian fellowship and the challenges they bring.
• The high trust and low trust societies and game theory as seen in real life.
• The state of many White Nationalist groups as front groups and honeypots for government agencies or Jewish NGOs.
• Chances of society or military succeeding with majority non-White memberships.
• Jews, fallen angels, their first sin, and the bastardization of creation.
• Hawaii, Texas, Florida and the erosion of the American empire.
• What to do with people programmed by the world, who see everything through jewish eyes.
• Isaiah chapter 47 and parallels with Revelation chapter 18.
• The significance of understanding the prophets, the New Testament and the Revelation in harmony.
• Pharmaceuticals, Covid and newspaper eschatology
• The fear porn circling around recent cellphone outage attributed to “solar flares”, food plant fires, train derailments.
• Odd weather patterns throughout the past winter.
• A porn star kills herself at 36: the plight of women in the judaized society.
• Another failure of secular White Nationalism: Donald Trump is just another dupe and he is not a savior.
• The true meanings of the words mister, master, and lord.

And more!

Just before 5:00 PM US Eastern time on Tuesday, November 28th, 2023 I replaced the original .mp3 file as it seemed to be skipping ahead, or for at least one listener, interminably looping at around 29:05 minutes. I apologize for any inconvenience. - wmfinck

Among the topics discussed:
 

• The recent protests in Ireland, and the relative lack of protests in France under similar circumstances.
• Genesis chapter 6 – fallen angels, their descendants, or both?
• Marks on your forehead and arms: Phylacteries and the true meaning of the law in Deuteronomy 6:8 and 11:18.
• Did Isaiah 27:1 have a dual fulfillment?
• Differences between races in cognitive and inventive abilities, craniology, or phrenology, and brain development.
• The perceived seat of a man's emotions in Greek philosophy and Hebrew Scriptures.
• Empathy, emotions, altruism, intelligence capabilities among the races.
• Evolution vs. Adaptation. Adaptation and genetic expression.
• Racial intelligence, IQ, and the capacity for learning, intelligence and motivation, the uselessness of rote memory i.e. the advantage of knowledge vs. memorizing trivia.
• Abilities of the Nephilim, origins of technology
• Scripture should not contradict itself; an analogy comparing Scriptural interpretation to computer programming which was made here at Christogenea long ago. The point being that when a verse is interpreted, it cannot contradict any other verse in the Bible, or the interpretation will upset the whole program.
• Reading Scripture with an intent to conform. The corruption of Christian doctrine in the early church. Preterism, Futurism, and the Catholic Church.
• Newspaper eschatology: Current events and fear porn
• The words adult and adulterate are from different Latin words, and not related directly, at least.
• Our modern apostasy, of which the apostles warned. Paganism is Judaism.
• The Torah, the Talmud, and Baby Rape, along with other damnable precepts of Judaism.
• Dustin Nemos is trolling and grifting Identity Christians as he promotes and defends his own race-mixing.
• Ezekiel 37:25 in light of 2 Samuel 7:10, and also the promises that Israel would inherit the world.
• Understanding prophecy with hindsight, but not having the ability to use it to predict the future.
• Revelation 20, Satan’s having been released from the pit and the emancipation of the Jews.
• Food laws, fat, kidneys and other organs: Is the eating of organs prohibited in the Law?
• Seven-year land Sabbath: Should farmers, and even individuals, still follow the land sabbath? Jubilees.
• The laws of dowry and the rape of virgins leading to marriage, Deuteronomy chapter 22. Jacob and Laban.
• Freemasonry and Albert Pike, the supposed letter to Mazzini. The Knight's Templars.

Among the subjects discussed this evening:

• Interpreting the “kings of the east” reference in Revelation chapter 16. Asiatic billionaires and some aspects of their influence over Western governance.
• Will there be Marriage after the Resurrection? The difficulties of speculating about life in the Kingdom of Heaven. The words of Christ concerning marriage after the Resurrection.
• What to do on the Sabbath? The “rest” of Joshua.
• Why is natural selection only applied to animals, and governments seek to prevent it among humans? The lack of consciousness among the other so-called races, and the impossibility of converting them.
• How did angels get wings?
• The Trojan horse of "smart cities". Twitter, Elon Musk and the ADL. VPNs and Jewish attempts to control the internet.
• Medieval fairy tales and the wisdom of knowing that evil is genetic, in old tales about Witches, ogres, and trolls which taught children about good and evil people. Stories of trolls or leprechauns and gold are warnings of Jews (quip: leprechaun = “leper cohen”). Japanese tengu creatures relating to same phenomenon.
• Class warfare promoted by Jews.
• Deuteronomy 6:8 and wearing the law on one’s hand and between one’s eyes.
• The death of Herod and the nature of his illness.
• Secular White Nationalism, White Sharia, Islam and anti-racism. Muslims and usury.
• Rachel, indirectly cursed by Jacob, was punished and died young because she stole the household gods of her father Laban, and therefore also wanted to steal his estate from her brothers.
• The contrasting personalities of Esau and Jacob, hairy vs. smooth.
• Spirits and unclean spirits vs. phantasma, or apparitions. “Soul sleep”.
• Yahweh God, the hardening of pharaoh’s heart, the the free will of man.
• Politics, parties, compromise and betrayal. Reasons for leaving the League of the South. The lesson of Gideon.
• Benjamin Franklin on race, Blonde vs. Brunette in Europe. Tawny or brunet brethren vs. Arabs, and the Gospel dividing the wheat and tares.
• Catholics, and most mainstream Christians do not read the Bible. The pattern of our critics having not read the Bible. 

Among the topics discussed:

Joe on the Dogcast, our name for the so-called “Godcast”, who was going later in the evening to defend our Christian Identity profession against Lutheran and Orthodox heretics. Profession of belief, works of man required in Judeo Christian salvation, the Church Fathers and early Gnosticism and neo-platonism; scope of the New Covenant; scope of the words world and man, Martin Luther and “all the world”, by which he meant all of Europe; Heman and Ethan of 1 Kings 4:31 and the 88th and 89th Psalms were not necessarily immediate sons of Mahol, and lived in David's time; salvation, works and rewards.

The old saying "Ignorance is bliss" must have been coined by inverting Ecclesiastes 1:18: "For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."

Churches teach self-righteousness, accept sinners, lead men to atheism or agnosticism; names as premonitions, i.e. Laban, Judith; the conception of the Messiah in first century Judaea: Christ as a warrior Messiah or suffering Messiah; the apocryphal Psalms and the Dead Sea Srolls; living in Babylon: the corrupt modern society, the fall of Babylon discussion and speculation; Gehenna, Hades and the Lake of Fire; Finding Christian Identity and the obligations and responsibility of knowledge; the Jewish gaslighting of words like "homophobe".

The four Greek words with various shades of meaning are all “love” in the English bibles; Zechariah chapter 14 and those who do not “keep the feast”; sobriety and temperance, is it okay to drink wine or beer? ; charity and how to do it; White nationalist failures; morality and war; is Psalm 151 canonical?

The importance of the next generation; burial or cremation? Is cremation acceptable?; the spirit and the body as a vessel; the apostle John in his later life, John’s witness of the passion of Christ; raising children in truth; the fate of children miscarried or born; and more…

Monday, May 1st, 10:00 AM: Evidently, our sound editor had left a 15 minute gap at an edit point in the final hour of the recording, however there was no missing content. The gap has now been repaired, and we apologize for any inconvenience. 

Among the topics discussed: Why should Christians endeavor to keep the law?; Why would Yahweh “allow” the fallen angels to corrupt men?; Should a woman who is a widowed mother rule a household?; How would people “come out” of Mystery Babylon after it falls?; The media chatter over monkeypox fizzled: only 38 apparent sodomites in the U.S. died of monkeypox and 33 of them were black; Discipline, work and sleep habits; Materialism; young men and vocations; The meanings of Hebrew words for branch, Nazarene and Nazarite; Was Samuel a Nazarite?; Jacob and Esau, debate over the birthright; Danny Updegraff talks about early Christian Identity, Bill Gale and Jeanne Snyder; Indians, Canaanites and Casinos; Deception in the Judaized churches…

This Open Forum had a slow start, and improved as the evening progressed. Some participants evidently had technical problems with their microphones and could not participate. The server is in line for an upgrade.

I will publish a short list of subjects here soon...

Some of the subjects discussed throughout the program:

The ADL / InfoWars / Kanye West / Nick Fuentes / Donald Trump / Elon Musk media-driven circus, and why Christians should have no care for any of the clowns. Perhaps “Kanye didn’t kill Yeself” might be a t-shirt in the near future (/sarcasm).

Why there is not going to be another great White organization or leader who can be effective on a national or international scale. The next, and the only valid, great White leader is Christ.

The Christian duty to advocate for truth amongst other Whites in real life, and the misuse of social media. Christians should focus on developing and fostering local communities of like-minded people. This was the strategy of the earliest Christians as they awaited the fall of Jerusalem, and Rome.

The unconquerable Adamic spirit and the inability of the enemies of God to destroy the Adamic man, regardless of what happens in this world. The salt of the earth.

The evils of globalism and the rewriting or fabrication of the history of non-White nations, and now White, mostly by Communists. The disproportionate burden of taxes and the social services infrastructure on White taxpayers. Proposed reparations payments to negros by the State of California is a communist agenda.

Answering some who would obfuscate the purpose of Yahweh God in the flood of Noah: Does the Bible promote the nurture of bastards? Further discussion on the eternal Adamic spirit, which has been the subject of recent podcasts at Christogenea.

The humanism and paganism which underlie supposedly Christian rituals, and the fact that Christians are not expected to conduct rituals by Christ or His apostles. The pagan aspects of other Church doctrines or traditions. The non-authority of Christian so-called “priests”, a concept which did not exist before the 4th century.

And more...

This evening we spoke with some of our friends about whether there would be law in the Kingdom of God, King James Only Identity Christians, the nature of the Melchizedek priesthood and the differences in the Patriarchal chronology between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint, and many other subjects. I may have metioned that while the patriarchs may have lived much longer than we do today, they also had children much later than we do today, so proportionately there is a similar balance.

On a couple of occasions, Joe from the Christogenea Forum mentioned the Corrupted Priesthood of the second temple in relation to Genesis chapter 4, for which I had looked back at my Malachi commentary. Now I realize that I may have discussed that connection even more deeply than I had in the commentary, as I merely gave it a notice. So Joe elaborated on the subject quite well as it helps to corroborate Clifton's assertions in his paper The Battle for the Priesthood.

Walttheof mentioned the story of Og of Bashan's having survived the flood of Noah, which is actually according to a ridiculous interpretation found in the Aramaic Targums. There I may have reconciled our mean opinion of that account with our citation of the Targums in relation to Genesis chapter 4. Yet where we have cited the Targums, I have not held them as being authoritative. Rather, I have in the past explained that they only represent attempts by early writers to understand and reconcile the Scriptures, even if they sometimes fail.

Many other subjects were discussed, and even some current events. We thank everyone who participated!

This evening a group of our friends tackled many questions which Christians may face today, concerning the role of women in the community, what Christians should be doing before the promised fall of Babylon, the obligation to have children, and many other day-to-day subjects. Having what we may perceive to be free will, could there once again be rebellion against Yahweh after the Resurrection? How could we even answer that question?  The difference between what theologians generally identify as the Divine Will and the Permissive Will of Yahweh God.

Due to a last minute cancellation of our scheduled program, this evening we decided to simply have a conversation with some of our friends. A variety of topics were discussed.

Various conversations with some of our friends. Is the Earth truly flat? Does the Bible say so? Will all Israel really be saved? Answering a whole lot of heresy, why don't so-called Christians actually believe the Bible?