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Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine?  Part 6, Demons, Devils and Satyrs

Once again we had many extemporaneous comments and explanations, and not all of them made it into our notes.

In our last presentation we came to the end of chapter 2 of Weisman’s book, and saw in one of his arguments towards the end of his section subtitled “The Enmity” that Weisman agreed with us when he tried to explain it. He admitted that the serpent was an intelligent individual, a person, who had its own order in the world which was contrary to the order of God. Of course, this could not be true of a simple snake created on the 5th day of Genesis chapter 1. So Weisman admitted that the basis for our so-called Two-Seedline belief is true, while at the same time he continued to deny Two-Seedline.

Now we begin to shall address chapter 3 of Charles Weisman’s book, which is simply titled “The Serpent”. Here he offers a lot of conjecture and what we may consider to be straw man arguments, however some Two-Seedline teachers or pastors of the past did indeed hold at least some of the more absurd concepts which Weisman argues against. Once again, I believe we shall see that Weisman’s arguments have no merit once we explain the basis for what we believe. Because this is probably the most important chapter in his book, we may present and address every single paragraph, so that none of our detractors can claim we purposely missed anything which they may then imagine that we cannot answer.

Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 5, Decoding the Enmity

This is not to be construed as a complaint, but this refutation of the lies of Charles Weisman is taking much longer than I initially expected. However it must be done in detail if we are going to sufficiently demonstrate exactly why he is wrong, and precisely why his arguments were often dishonest. So while we thought we could finish Weisman’s discussion of the enmity of Genesis 3:15 in our last presentation, we did not. Hopefully with this presentation we can conclude that, and then finally move on to chapter 3 of his book, which is titled The Serpent.

We have already discussed much of Weisman’s argument concerning “the enmity”, and how he had used, or rather, abused, three passages of Scripture to somehow prove that the enmity between the serpent and the seed of the woman was ended at the Crucifixion. In this endeavor, Weisman cited two passages from Paul, which are Colossians 2:15 and Hebrews 2:14-15, and one passage from John, found at 1 John 3:8.

First, it can be established that Paul’s epistle to the Ephesians was written only a short time before his epistle to the Colossians, and that both were written during the two-year period while he was in captivity in Rome. This is explained in a paper at Christogenea titled Ordering and chronology of the epistles of Paul, and it is beyond the scope of our purpose to present it again here.

I really don’t like to discuss news or current events, but this evening I have a short program, so I will take a few minutes to discuss the latest media scare, coronavirus. The notes for this are found at the Christogenea Forum, where I am certain there will be further discussion.

The Time of the Heathen – a Critical Review of a sermon by Bertrand Comparet

While I admire and respect Bertrand Comparet as a trailblazer in developing and spreading the truth of our Christian Identity profession, I also believe that his message had a lot of flaws. But some of his errors were merely due to the time in which he lived, and if I had also lived then, doing what I do now, I may well have repeated them. This is because Comparet’s view of eschatology was a product of the Cold War, and apparently, he did not see any possibilities of an end-of-the-world scenario which may have transcended that age of apparent conflict.

But other flaws can evidently be attributed to the fact that his message was not fully developed, and for that reason it had some internal conflicts. For example, while Comparet recognized that there were goat nations and sheep nations, which were genetic races of people with contrary destinies, and of course he also knew that the identity of the sheep was with modern White Europeans, he sometimes also looked at goat nations as if they could somehow be allies of the sheep, and here he clearly makes that mistake.

So in the aftermath of our critique of Comparet’s sermon on the Sheep and the Goats, I thought to offer a critique of this sermon as well, and hopefully even some of our skeptics, who continue to cling to Comparet’s views in at least most areas, will themselves see the need for refinement and revision which we – meaning both Clifton Emahiser and myself – have been pressing for many years.

Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 4, Lies of Omission

As we said at the end of Part 3 of this series, in refuting Weisman’s lies, we have necessarily gotten ahead of him, so we will have to repeat ourselves later in our address of his book. For example, at the end of the book there is a section on Witchcraft, Gnostic and Masonic beliefs and the Talmud and Kabbalah. Weisman is thereby slandering our understanding of Scripture by associating it with all of those wicked writings, which is ad hominem rather than legitimate debate, and we addressed some of that in the beginning of the last presentation we made in this series.

Following that, we addressed Weisman’s contention that the “seed of the woman” in Genesis chapter 3 refers only to Christ Himself, which is not true, and we exposed the lies about Hebrew grammar which he created in his attempt to prove that it is true. We also addressed many of the citations he made from various denominational commentaries which make the same insistence, and we refuted them, but on the other hand, we pointed out how a few of them actually agreed with us, and not with Weisman – something which he evidently did not understand, or did not want to understand.

Then we demonstrated the folly of the statements made by Weisman and by some of the commentaries which he cited that claim that Satan was somehow eliminated at the Crucifixion, when it is quite clear in Scripture that Satan was still in the world 30 and 60 years after the Crucifixion, as it is professed in the epistles of the apostles and in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and the apostles themselves described for us what Satan is, as Satan is still with us today. Apparently we shall discuss Satan much further on when we address part 3 of Weisman’s book, which is subtitled “The Serpent”.

Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 3, Seed is a Collective

Once again, there were many extemporaneous remarks and explanations in this presentation. The prepared notes are found below.

This will be part 3 of our discussion addressing aspects of the book: What About the Seedline Doctrine? A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine by Charles A. Weisman. We are still in chapter 2 of the book, which is titled “The Basis of the Satanic Seedline Doctrine”. Once again, we still haven’t located a copy of the book which contains the first chapter, but if we ever do, we might have to backtrack a bit to address that also. A friend wrote me this week and I think he may have a copy. Now, as I have said several times already, continuing to examine Weisman’s arguments and methods of analysis, I am certain we shall also continue to find that he failed to answer the question which he himself had posed in the title of his book.

Before we get back to where we left off in Weisman’s book, I would like to discuss this hare-brained idea that our interpretation of Genesis chapter 3 had originated in the Talmud. Perhaps this argument belongs at the end of our address of Weisman’s book, since he has chapters there which present it, but it is brought to the forefront by his supporters, so we shall address it in part now. Concerning our interpretation, I don’t really like to call it “Two-Seedline” but we are sort of stuck with the label because it has long been popular. The label is too narrow, and the real struggle is between two trees, the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of Life.

A Critical Review of The Sheep and The Goats, by Bertrand Comparet

On tape this was actually only a ten-minute sermon, but we may make it a 75-minute discussion. I have included a copy of the original sermon below. As with all of the Comparet sermons transcribed by Jeanne Snyder and then digitized by Clifton Emahiser, some editing and changes were made, so none of these are word-for-word from Comparet, but they are close enough to be accurate representations of what he said. But I cannot even know if the audio version which I have is the same as what Jeanne had originally transcribed.

I remember first learning about Christian Identity from a small collection of books that did not say much at all about those races which were outside of the Scriptures, or at least, which were not direct subjects of the Scriptures. There was E. Raymond Capt’s Abrahamic Covenant, Bertrand Comparet’s Your Heritage, Robert Balacius’ Uncovering the Mysteries of Your Hidden Inheritance, even William Cameron’s The Covenant People. Cameron is more famous for his work on The International Jew for Henry Ford’s paper, The Dearborn Independent, but few people familiar with that also know that Cameron was an Identity Christian. At that early time I also read quite a few things from Wesley Swift, and also from Richard Kelly Hoskins, Howard Rand, Frederick Haberman, and at least half dozen other Identity writers.

Back then I also subscribed to a paper called The Jubilee, printed somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, I think in Oregon, which in each issue had run an article by Ted Weiland. So in hindsight, it is not a wonder the paper was rather soft on the race issue, and even then I recognized Weiland’s universalism. So I never read more than a couple of his articles, and I never renewed the subscription. But after reading a few dozen or so Identity books and a host of other materials – although I don’t remember exactly how much I read, as this was back in 1997 and early 1998 – I began to realize that there were vast differences of opinions among various Identity writers concerning certain very important subjects.

Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 2, The Basis in Law

There were extemporaneous sections of this podcast which are not included in the notes below, but what is found here is what I was able to prepare in advance in preparation for this presentation.

Here we shall continue our discussion addressing aspects of the book: What About the Seedline Doctrine? A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine by Charles A. Weisman. Last week we began in chapter 2, “The Basis of the Satanic Seedline Doctrine”, and we still have not located a copy of the book containing the first chapter, so we shall pick up where we left off. As I also already said, once we see some of Weisman’s arguments and methods of analysis, I am certain we shall find that he failed to answer the question in the title of his book.

But first, before we began addressing Weisman’s book, in our last segment of this presentation we had a basic discussion which I hoped would answer many of the questions which TruthVids often receives from people who are new to Christian Identity. So perhaps we may need to follow up on that and make any further clarifications before we return to addressing Weisman.

Last week we explained how Weisman lied where he had asserted that the partaking of fruit was never used in Scripture to describe the act of sexual intercourse, and we showed evidence to the contrary from the Song of Solomon, and also from the Epic of Gilgamesh which was contemporary to the time of Abraham and Moses.

Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 1, Fruit in the Garden of Love

Most of this program was extemporaneous, however I did prepare some notes in advance which address points in Weisman’s book, with which I have contentions and which I thought were significant enough to present here. So those notes shall be included below in the form in which I wrote them. A PDF copy of Weisman’s book, which we obtained from the Internet Archive, is also linked below.

Introduction:

Here we are joined by Truth Vids, where we shall have a discussion of many points addressing aspects of the book: What About the Seedline Doctrine? A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine by Charles A. Weisman. The copies available on the internet are all missing pages 2 and 3, so I do not know what Weisman wrote under the subtitle “The Basis of the Satanic Seedline Doctrine”. Looking through Clifton’s library for a copy, which there is a very good chance that he has, I have not yet located one. Today, most of our discussion will be limited to the second chapter of Weisman’s book, which is subtitled “A Scriptural Analysis”. Once we see some of Weisman’s arguments and methods of analysis, I am certain we shall find that he failed to answer the question in the title of his book.

Clifton Emahiser on Ted Weiland

Here I have decided to take a short break from my commentary On the Gospel of John, and have a little fun at the expense of a clown named Ted Weiland, a name which is probably too familiar to many of our listeners. But I guess some people will now wonder why I insist on doing this. The truth is that unlike many of the other men whom we have criticized over the years, most of whom we deeply respect in spite of any perceived flaws in their work, Weiland is still alive and well and spouting his nonsense under the pretense of being an Identity Christian, while he has willfully ignored all of our inquiries and criticisms. Weiland is actually a self-righteous universalist who would in effect eradicate Identity from Christianity altogether. But Weiland is also one of the ring-leaders of an entire circus of such clowns, which includes Stephen Jones, James Bruggeman, Jory Brooks and others. Two years ago I would have included Dave Barley in this list, but I have learned that he has openly recanted his former universalism, which is certainly to his credit. However while they are not quite as odious, Barley and Lawrence Blanchard and a few others still have subtle elements of universalism in their doctrines and scriptural interpretations.

Weiland had a book disputing our interpretation of Genesis chapter 3 titled Eve, Did She or Didn’t She? I never read it, but Clifton has a copy on one of the shelves here somewhere and if I ever do, I might have yet another presentation to write. But for that Clifton had criticized Weiland frequently in his Special Notices to All Who Deny Two-Seedline series, and when I presented that here in podcasts throughout 2017, I hope to have expounded upon those criticisms. That series of papers was written by Clifton throughout 2002 and 2003. Then later, as I have also explained elsewhere, our friend Tony Gonyer had written Weiland a letter in 2005, and that letter compelled me to also write to Weiland, which I did in August of that year. Weiland never responded to my letter, and Clifton had it published on the Israelect.com website, where he added some citations from Weiland which were representative of the things with which we took issue. Since I have come to control Israelect.com I redirect many of the papers there to where they are posted at Christogenea. Now since I have been released from prison, since very late 2008, I have encountered Weiland many times in social media, and I have confronted him each time in a kindly manner, but he has only scoffed at me and he has refused to discuss any of these issues with me. For that he certainly does deserve the label clown.

The Higher Calling, a review of a Sermon by Bertrand Comparet

Perhaps it is fitting that each time I begin a review of a sermon by Comparet or Swift, or an essay by Emahiser, that I do so with reflections on my own early Christian Identity studies. However I had originally embarked on my studies because I was compelled by sermons such as these from Comparet or Swift, and I was helped along the way by Emahiser.

This sermon, however, is important to me because it shows that regarding one critical issue, I have always generally agreed with Comparet, while many other Christian Identity pastors or teachers and their followers have different opinions which are not so well-grounded in Scripture. Often, those who have disagreed with me on this issue have even attributed to Comparet a position which he did not hold. That critical issue is the fact that all Israel shall be saved.

That “all Israel shall be saved”, the Bible states rather plainly, as it is found in both the letters of Paul in Romans chapter 11 and in the prophecy of Isaiah in chapter 45. The Scriptures also lead us to make the same implication in many other places. But in spite of that, many Identity Christians argue against it, and even despise us for holding to the assertion. However we would assert that their doctrines are remnants of their denominational baggage, and they are not founded in Scripture.

What is Religion?

When I first came to Christian Identity, I gave much thought to the meaning of the word religion. Perhaps this sermon by Bertrand Comparet, titled What is Religion?, had helped to stimulate that process. The primary definition of the word religion in the Oxford Dictionary is “the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.” But although that is what it has come to mean, I believe the original sense of the Latin word from which it was derived has a much deeper meaning, and that this deeper meaning is relevant to our Christian Identity profession. The Latin word religio was used in a manner much like we use the word religion today. But the related word religo is a verb meaning to tie back or tie up, and religatio is a tying back or up. So, according to The New College Latin & English Dictionary, the word religiosus, which is probably the closest antecedent to our word religious, was used to refer to something which was “subject to religious claims, under religious liability.” Liability is “the state of being responsible for something”, so there is the connection to the meaning of the root word religo, in the sense of being tied or bound to a thing.

This in turn brings several Scriptures to mind. First, in Matthew chapter 18, we read in the words of Christ: “15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church [assembly]: but if he neglect to hear the church [assembly], let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.” Then, after admonishing His disciples about sin and guilt and the need to reject men who do not accept correction along those lines, Yahshua Christ had also said “18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” So binding and loosing are related to Christian fellowship and community, or communion, and that in turn is based on an abstention from sin and a keeping of the commandments of God. Paul’s example of such loosing is found in 1 Corinthians chapter 5, where he encouraged the assembly at Corinth to ostracize a fornicator from their community.

Rosette Delacroix hosts TruthVids and William Finck for a discussion concerning the recent TruthVids video, 100 Proofs the Israelites were White. We expect to continue this for one more segment in January.

Edited from Rosette Delacroix's program description on Bitchute:

William Finck joined TruthVids, Scotland Sean and Rosette Delacroix, and a few other of our friends, in a chat regarding various Christian Identity topics. We started out by going over Charles A. Weisman's work and his stance on Dual Seedline. Bill covers exceptionally well why Weisman's interpretation is inaccurate. We also had a number of excellent questions that TruthVids gathered from various subscribers posed to him, that Bill answered for us. We ended by asking Bill if he would be so kind as to join us for another chat in the future. He graciously agreed. We look forward to the next one, which we have tentatively made for the beginning of November. This chat was not posted to YouTube because when Rosette tries to do a chat there with Bill, Sven Longshanks or Dennis Wise, the chat gets blocked. So I will only be posting these here on Bitchute. This is now my main channel and posting platform. We are blessed to have Bill! I hope you enjoy this chat as much as we all did on the panel. Thank you Bill!

Some of my program afterthoughts:

During the initial portion of the discussion, I had in mind to explain how the British Israel position on the other races actually fed the vanity of those who loved their Empire and wanted to justify it. Then when American Christian Identity developed, those sentiments were transmitted to Americans, as America became the leading "superpower" after WW1. These people believed that this concept of "Dominion Theology" gave Anglos a license to rule over and be "teachers" to non-Adamics, who would then become "civilized". Many American CI of Charles Weisman's persuasion still think this, but it is an error which I have often addressed in the past. I regret that I got distracted and this sentiment was not included.

Another thing I may have better elucidated is that the naming of the beasts by Adam in Genesis 2, and his not finding a wife among them, is an anti-thesis to the sin of the fallen angels as it is described in Enoch! This helps to establish the nature of the rebellion of the "fallen angels".

This evening we have with us Ike Baker, a long-time Southern Nationalist who was raised in the coastal South and who now lives in Appalachia. We have known Ike as the Chief of Operations for the League of the South since we had first met him in the wonderful environment of Charlottesville, Virginia, and the #UnitetheRight rally in August of 2017. Earlier in his life, Ike had for a long time served as an officer in the US military, and it would be interesting to know how he had transitioned from that environment to Southern Nationalism, and more recently even to Christian Identity.

Because some of our listeners from outside of the South are sometimes confused about the League, we would also like to discuss with Ike his view of the purpose of the League, and its attitude towards Whites in other regions. In my opinion, sometimes nationalists in the North get the wrong impression about that, in spite of the fact that the League has members in the North. So perhaps Ike can help clear up some of the confusion.

Today we are going to have a conversation with a man named David, whom I only know from the few dozen posts and comments he has made on the Christogenea Forum, which he joined about 8 or 9 months ago. David lives in North America, but his parents came from Serbia and he was raised traditionally in the Serbian Orthodox Church.

It should be quite interesting to hear how and why David has forsaken the Orthodox profession, and has come to understand Christian Identity, and what motivated him to do so in the first place. We would also like to hear of some of his experiences in his community since doing so, since we have heard that he has confronted other community members with his new understanding.

Over the past few years, many Nationalists have mistakenly come to think that by joining the Orthodox Church they are returning to some original form of Christianity, which may then cure the woes of White people. To us, that is not at all true since the path taken by the Orthodox as well as the Catholic Churches from the 5th century is what is responsible for our dilemma in the first place.

Christian Foundations

Speaking academically, we are not going to move our Christian Identity studies forward, and distinguish our faith from all of the errors of denominational churchianity, until we leave behind all of the mistakes of the past. As I have said before, there are many supposed Identity Christians who are content with the 19th century discoveries of British Israel, and that is where they remain. Some others have moved past that to realize that the Jews are not Judah, but they are still mired down in other heresies, such as the supposed 6th & 8th day creation heresy, or the idea that man can somehow be justified by works, which are the rituals of the law, or the heretical idea that Yahweh created races of men other than Adam, and when He created them in Genesis, He only called them beasts. These last fools often claim that the other races are the beasts of Genesis 1:25, but they are to be included among “all men” in John 12:32 or the “world” of John 3:16. All of these heresies are evil, and the men who uphold them are scatterers, and not gatherers. All of these heresies lead to compromise with the enemies of Yahweh our God, and all of them and more must be left behind if we are to have a truly pure and righteous faith.

We have spoken often about some of these heresies, but this evening we will discuss a different sort of heretic, which is the Christian Identity Judaizer. Paul of Tarsus resisted the Judaizers in the first century, and we must continue to resist them today. Sadly, many of our Christian Identity brethren have fallen for the trap of self-justification which they have set. There seems to be a lot of confusion in Christianity, and especially among Identity Christians, as to the relationship of the New Covenant to the Old Covenant. So many Identity Christians, realizing the truth of the Hebrew roots of White Christian Society and the Israelite ancestry of the majority of the tribes which had formed the modern nations of Europe, think that they must revert to keeping the many statutes and ordinances of the Old Covenant in order to better please Yahweh their God.

This evening we are honored to have Dennis Wise here to speak with us. Dennis is the creator of many wonderful, cutting-edge and controversial documentary videos including Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told, The New World Order: Communism by the Back Door, and lately, The Secret Masonic Victory of WW2 and How the World was Fooled. He hosts The Greatest Story Never Told at his own website, where a professionally-made DVD copy of that film and Communism By the Back Door can also be purchased. Both there and on his Youtube channel there is a large assortment of other videos which he has produced on related topics. Dennis’ critics slam him with astute observations such as “he is not a historian”, “he is not a famous filmmaker” and even “facts do not matter”. Only so-called “experts” going along with the status quo and Jewish media lies apparently matter. More recently, Dennis has also come to understand at least much of our Christian Identity view of Scripture and History.

UPDATE: On June 5th, 2019 Youtube cancelled Dennis' account, along with several others. See his websites for his many excellent productions:

https://TheGreatestStoryNeverTold.tv 

https://CommunismByTheBackdoor.tv 

https://TheSecretMasonicVictoryOfWW2.tv 

https://TruthWillOut.tv

A Conversation with Rosette Delacroix and Friends.

William Finck in a general discussion which included many related Christian Identity topics, with Rosette Delacroix and a panel of friends. The Youtube version of this podcast was restricted only a few hours after it was first published on April 20th.

This presentation is from an article which is posted in the Christogenea Forum titled Compromise is not the Path to Righteousness

I have decided to withhold my commentary and presentation on the Gospel of John until I can do it properly, and hope to resume next week.

The Hurricast, Part 1

Tonight I am going to talk briefly about our personal experience in the aftermath of Hurricane Michael, just to have it on record. Then we will also present an interview with Shaun Winkler, a friend and fellow League of the South member from Mississippi who came to Florida as a volunteer in the hurricane relief effort. Because I have had many inquiries as to my own well-being and also that of Christogenea, my ministry, and how we are fairing after the storm, I will begin with an account from a personal perspective.

Wanting to wisely invest and preserve the money which Clifton Emahiser had left us upon his passing this past July, just about six weeks before the recent hurricane, Melissa and I had bought a house in a sportsman’s mecca an hour’s drive north and west of where we lived near Panama City. We had hoped that it would become a sometimes retreat, a refuge of sorts, as well as a potentially profitable investment property. In that way we would be doing what Clifton wanted, which is for me to be able to perpetuate our ministry, while we would also be preserving the value of the original investment. So we began to decorate the place, spending my weekly day or day-and-a-half off there, but we did not plan to live there full time. Much of my work at Christogenea depends on high speed Internet and a reliable cell phone connection, and the area this house is in has neither of those luxuries. But there are plenty of deer, bear, hyenas, fish, and, reportedly, even alligators.