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Addressing Charles Weisman’s What About the Seedline Doctrine? Part 1, Fruit in the Garden of Love

Most of this program was extemporaneous, however I did prepare some notes in advance which address points in Weisman’s book, with which I have contentions and which I thought were significant enough to present here. So those notes shall be included below in the form in which I wrote them. A PDF copy of Weisman’s book, which we obtained from the Internet Archive, is also linked below.

Introduction:

Here we are joined by Truth Vids, where we shall have a discussion of many points addressing aspects of the book: What About the Seedline Doctrine? A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine by Charles A. Weisman. The copies available on the internet are all missing pages 2 and 3, so I do not know what Weisman wrote under the subtitle “The Basis of the Satanic Seedline Doctrine”. Looking through Clifton’s library for a copy, which there is a very good chance that he has, I have not yet located one. Today, most of our discussion will be limited to the second chapter of Weisman’s book, which is subtitled “A Scriptural Analysis”. Once we see some of Weisman’s arguments and methods of analysis, I am certain we shall find that he failed to answer the question in the title of his book.

Clifton Emahiser on Ted Weiland

Here I have decided to take a short break from my commentary On the Gospel of John, and have a little fun at the expense of a clown named Ted Weiland, a name which is probably too familiar to many of our listeners. But I guess some people will now wonder why I insist on doing this. The truth is that unlike many of the other men whom we have criticized over the years, most of whom we deeply respect in spite of any perceived flaws in their work, Weiland is still alive and well and spouting his nonsense under the pretense of being an Identity Christian, while he has willfully ignored all of our inquiries and criticisms. Weiland is actually a self-righteous universalist who would in effect eradicate Identity from Christianity altogether. But Weiland is also one of the ring-leaders of an entire circus of such clowns, which includes Stephen Jones, James Bruggeman, Jory Brooks and others. Two years ago I would have included Dave Barley in this list, but I have learned that he has openly recanted his former universalism, which is certainly to his credit. However while they are not quite as odious, Barley and Lawrence Blanchard and a few others still have subtle elements of universalism in their doctrines and scriptural interpretations.

Weiland had a book disputing our interpretation of Genesis chapter 3 titled Eve, Did She or Didn’t She? I never read it, but Clifton has a copy on one of the shelves here somewhere and if I ever do, I might have yet another presentation to write. But for that Clifton had criticized Weiland frequently in his Special Notices to All Who Deny Two-Seedline series, and when I presented that here in podcasts throughout 2017, I hope to have expounded upon those criticisms. That series of papers was written by Clifton throughout 2002 and 2003. Then later, as I have also explained elsewhere, our friend Tony Gonyer had written Weiland a letter in 2005, and that letter compelled me to also write to Weiland, which I did in August of that year. Weiland never responded to my letter, and Clifton had it published on the Israelect.com website, where he added some citations from Weiland which were representative of the things with which we took issue. Since I have come to control Israelect.com I redirect many of the papers there to where they are posted at Christogenea. Now since I have been released from prison, since very late 2008, I have encountered Weiland many times in social media, and I have confronted him each time in a kindly manner, but he has only scoffed at me and he has refused to discuss any of these issues with me. For that he certainly does deserve the label clown.

The Higher Calling, a review of a Sermon by Bertrand Comparet

Perhaps it is fitting that each time I begin a review of a sermon by Comparet or Swift, or an essay by Emahiser, that I do so with reflections on my own early Christian Identity studies. However I had originally embarked on my studies because I was compelled by sermons such as these from Comparet or Swift, and I was helped along the way by Emahiser.

This sermon, however, is important to me because it shows that regarding one critical issue, I have always generally agreed with Comparet, while many other Christian Identity pastors or teachers and their followers have different opinions which are not so well-grounded in Scripture. Often, those who have disagreed with me on this issue have even attributed to Comparet a position which he did not hold. That critical issue is the fact that all Israel shall be saved.

That “all Israel shall be saved”, the Bible states rather plainly, as it is found in both the letters of Paul in Romans chapter 11 and in the prophecy of Isaiah in chapter 45. The Scriptures also lead us to make the same implication in many other places. But in spite of that, many Identity Christians argue against it, and even despise us for holding to the assertion. However we would assert that their doctrines are remnants of their denominational baggage, and they are not founded in Scripture.

What is Religion?

When I first came to Christian Identity, I gave much thought to the meaning of the word religion. Perhaps this sermon by Bertrand Comparet, titled What is Religion?, had helped to stimulate that process. The primary definition of the word religion in the Oxford Dictionary is “the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.” But although that is what it has come to mean, I believe the original sense of the Latin word from which it was derived has a much deeper meaning, and that this deeper meaning is relevant to our Christian Identity profession. The Latin word religio was used in a manner much like we use the word religion today. But the related word religo is a verb meaning to tie back or tie up, and religatio is a tying back or up. So, according to The New College Latin & English Dictionary, the word religiosus, which is probably the closest antecedent to our word religious, was used to refer to something which was “subject to religious claims, under religious liability.” Liability is “the state of being responsible for something”, so there is the connection to the meaning of the root word religo, in the sense of being tied or bound to a thing.

This in turn brings several Scriptures to mind. First, in Matthew chapter 18, we read in the words of Christ: “15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church [assembly]: but if he neglect to hear the church [assembly], let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.” Then, after admonishing His disciples about sin and guilt and the need to reject men who do not accept correction along those lines, Yahshua Christ had also said “18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” So binding and loosing are related to Christian fellowship and community, or communion, and that in turn is based on an abstention from sin and a keeping of the commandments of God. Paul’s example of such loosing is found in 1 Corinthians chapter 5, where he encouraged the assembly at Corinth to ostracize a fornicator from their community.

Rosette Delacroix hosts TruthVids and William Finck for a discussion concerning the recent TruthVids video, 100 Proofs the Israelites were White. We expect to continue this for one more segment in January.

Edited from Rosette Delacroix's program description on Bitchute:

William Finck joined TruthVids, Scotland Sean and Rosette Delacroix, and a few other of our friends, in a chat regarding various Christian Identity topics. We started out by going over Charles A. Weisman's work and his stance on Dual Seedline. Bill covers exceptionally well why Weisman's interpretation is inaccurate. We also had a number of excellent questions that TruthVids gathered from various subscribers posed to him, that Bill answered for us. We ended by asking Bill if he would be so kind as to join us for another chat in the future. He graciously agreed. We look forward to the next one, which we have tentatively made for the beginning of November. This chat was not posted to YouTube because when Rosette tries to do a chat there with Bill, Sven Longshanks or Dennis Wise, the chat gets blocked. So I will only be posting these here on Bitchute. This is now my main channel and posting platform. We are blessed to have Bill! I hope you enjoy this chat as much as we all did on the panel. Thank you Bill!

Some of my program afterthoughts:

During the initial portion of the discussion, I had in mind to explain how the British Israel position on the other races actually fed the vanity of those who loved their Empire and wanted to justify it. Then when American Christian Identity developed, those sentiments were transmitted to Americans, as America became the leading "superpower" after WW1. These people believed that this concept of "Dominion Theology" gave Anglos a license to rule over and be "teachers" to non-Adamics, who would then become "civilized". Many American CI of Charles Weisman's persuasion still think this, but it is an error which I have often addressed in the past. I regret that I got distracted and this sentiment was not included.

Another thing I may have better elucidated is that the naming of the beasts by Adam in Genesis 2, and his not finding a wife among them, is an anti-thesis to the sin of the fallen angels as it is described in Enoch! This helps to establish the nature of the rebellion of the "fallen angels".

This evening we have with us Ike Baker, a long-time Southern Nationalist who was raised in the coastal South and who now lives in Appalachia. We have known Ike as the Chief of Operations for the League of the South since we had first met him in the wonderful environment of Charlottesville, Virginia, and the #UnitetheRight rally in August of 2017. Earlier in his life, Ike had for a long time served as an officer in the US military, and it would be interesting to know how he had transitioned from that environment to Southern Nationalism, and more recently even to Christian Identity.

Because some of our listeners from outside of the South are sometimes confused about the League, we would also like to discuss with Ike his view of the purpose of the League, and its attitude towards Whites in other regions. In my opinion, sometimes nationalists in the North get the wrong impression about that, in spite of the fact that the League has members in the North. So perhaps Ike can help clear up some of the confusion.

Today we are going to have a conversation with a man named David, whom I only know from the few dozen posts and comments he has made on the Christogenea Forum, which he joined about 8 or 9 months ago. David lives in North America, but his parents came from Serbia and he was raised traditionally in the Serbian Orthodox Church.

It should be quite interesting to hear how and why David has forsaken the Orthodox profession, and has come to understand Christian Identity, and what motivated him to do so in the first place. We would also like to hear of some of his experiences in his community since doing so, since we have heard that he has confronted other community members with his new understanding.

Over the past few years, many Nationalists have mistakenly come to think that by joining the Orthodox Church they are returning to some original form of Christianity, which may then cure the woes of White people. To us, that is not at all true since the path taken by the Orthodox as well as the Catholic Churches from the 5th century is what is responsible for our dilemma in the first place.

Christian Foundations

Speaking academically, we are not going to move our Christian Identity studies forward, and distinguish our faith from all of the errors of denominational churchianity, until we leave behind all of the mistakes of the past. As I have said before, there are many supposed Identity Christians who are content with the 19th century discoveries of British Israel, and that is where they remain. Some others have moved past that to realize that the Jews are not Judah, but they are still mired down in other heresies, such as the supposed 6th & 8th day creation heresy, or the idea that man can somehow be justified by works, which are the rituals of the law, or the heretical idea that Yahweh created races of men other than Adam, and when He created them in Genesis, He only called them beasts. These last fools often claim that the other races are the beasts of Genesis 1:25, but they are to be included among “all men” in John 12:32 or the “world” of John 3:16. All of these heresies are evil, and the men who uphold them are scatterers, and not gatherers. All of these heresies lead to compromise with the enemies of Yahweh our God, and all of them and more must be left behind if we are to have a truly pure and righteous faith.

We have spoken often about some of these heresies, but this evening we will discuss a different sort of heretic, which is the Christian Identity Judaizer. Paul of Tarsus resisted the Judaizers in the first century, and we must continue to resist them today. Sadly, many of our Christian Identity brethren have fallen for the trap of self-justification which they have set. There seems to be a lot of confusion in Christianity, and especially among Identity Christians, as to the relationship of the New Covenant to the Old Covenant. So many Identity Christians, realizing the truth of the Hebrew roots of White Christian Society and the Israelite ancestry of the majority of the tribes which had formed the modern nations of Europe, think that they must revert to keeping the many statutes and ordinances of the Old Covenant in order to better please Yahweh their God.

This evening we are honored to have Dennis Wise here to speak with us. Dennis is the creator of many wonderful, cutting-edge and controversial documentary videos including Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told, The New World Order: Communism by the Back Door, and lately, The Secret Masonic Victory of WW2 and How the World was Fooled. He hosts The Greatest Story Never Told at his own website, where a professionally-made DVD copy of that film and Communism By the Back Door can also be purchased. Both there and on his Youtube channel there is a large assortment of other videos which he has produced on related topics. Dennis’ critics slam him with astute observations such as “he is not a historian”, “he is not a famous filmmaker” and even “facts do not matter”. Only so-called “experts” going along with the status quo and Jewish media lies apparently matter. More recently, Dennis has also come to understand at least much of our Christian Identity view of Scripture and History.

UPDATE: On June 5th, 2019 Youtube cancelled Dennis' account, along with several others. See his websites for his many excellent productions:

https://TheGreatestStoryNeverTold.tv 

https://CommunismByTheBackdoor.tv 

https://TheSecretMasonicVictoryOfWW2.tv 

https://TruthWillOut.tv

A Conversation with Rosette Delacroix and Friends.

William Finck in a general discussion which included many related Christian Identity topics, with Rosette Delacroix and a panel of friends. The Youtube version of this podcast was restricted only a few hours after it was first published on April 20th.

This presentation is from an article which is posted in the Christogenea Forum titled Compromise is not the Path to Righteousness

I have decided to withhold my commentary and presentation on the Gospel of John until I can do it properly, and hope to resume next week.

The Hurricast, Part 1

Tonight I am going to talk briefly about our personal experience in the aftermath of Hurricane Michael, just to have it on record. Then we will also present an interview with Shaun Winkler, a friend and fellow League of the South member from Mississippi who came to Florida as a volunteer in the hurricane relief effort. Because I have had many inquiries as to my own well-being and also that of Christogenea, my ministry, and how we are fairing after the storm, I will begin with an account from a personal perspective.

Wanting to wisely invest and preserve the money which Clifton Emahiser had left us upon his passing this past July, just about six weeks before the recent hurricane, Melissa and I had bought a house in a sportsman’s mecca an hour’s drive north and west of where we lived near Panama City. We had hoped that it would become a sometimes retreat, a refuge of sorts, as well as a potentially profitable investment property. In that way we would be doing what Clifton wanted, which is for me to be able to perpetuate our ministry, while we would also be preserving the value of the original investment. So we began to decorate the place, spending my weekly day or day-and-a-half off there, but we did not plan to live there full time. Much of my work at Christogenea depends on high speed Internet and a reliable cell phone connection, and the area this house is in has neither of those luxuries. But there are plenty of deer, bear, hyenas, fish, and, reportedly, even alligators.

Christogenea Internet Radio, Friday at 8:00 PM Eastern

Clifton Emahiser rebuts Charles Weisman. In this recording, which has never before been published on the Internet, Clifton Emahiser takes turns playing a presentation by Charles Weisman disputing two-seedline, and then stopping the tape to answer Weisman's contentions.

Clifton called this a "mock debate", but it is actually more of a step-by-step rebuttal of Weisman's contentions. This may be the first recording which Clifton ever made, perhaps even as early as 1996 or 1997.

For that reason, some of Clifton's answers were not what they may have been as he advanced his studies over the subsequent years. His answer concerning Genesis 4:1 certainly would have been much more authoritative after 2004 or 2005. He nevertheless did very well defending many of our positions.

Listening to Weisman, he himself seems to have been answering two-seedline claims that were made in writing, perhaps by Clifton himself. While he may not have started his Watchman's Teaching Ministry by this time, Clifton was involved in correspondence and debate with many non-seedliners before he did so.

We thank our friends from the Gonyer family who made the presentation of this recording here possible.

This weekend we remember Clifton Emahiser by replaying his first appearance on Internet Radio.

Clifton's fleshly body was committed to the earth this morning in Tiffin, Ohio, the same town in which he was born in 1928. We thank all of our friends who attended the brief funeral, who came from Indiana, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania to be with us this day.

The program we present tonight was first broadcast on Talkshoe on April 18th, 2009, days after Clifton's 82nd birthday.

At left: Clifton at his dining room table in his home in Fostoria, Ohio, October, 2015.

A Eulogy for Clifton Emahiser

It is just over twenty years ago that Clifton Emahiser decided to start his Watchman's Teaching Ministry, and my name was added to his list of subscribers by a mutual friend. He decided to begin his endeavor while he was hospitalized following a heart attack, in February of 1998. With his first issue he said that he was committed to publishing his teaching letters for as long as he lived, saying that “Since I came down with a heart attack February 6, 1998, I have dedicated the rest my life (at least what there is of it) to full time writing for the Almighty.” He very nearly lived up to that promise, and I am certain he never expected to complete 232 monthly editions, spanning 19 years and four months from when he had started. There are still a couple of papers Clifton wrote as late as this past winter, which I must retrieve from his files and evaluate for publication.

Near the end of the first year of his publications, I wrote him with a disagreement in reference to a particular historical subject. Often, pastors and Bible teachers who are challenged concerning such things are offended, but not Clifton. Rather than be upset over my criticism, rather than be angry, Clifton was more than happy to study what I had written him, and to discuss and reconsider his position after investigating the matter further. So we developed a working relationship and an enduring friendship over the subsequent years.

Clifton was incredibly humble, he loved hearing and discussing my critiques of his work, and over the eighteen years that I edited for him, he was always happy if I found anything that could be improved or corrected. Clifton was also humble enough to trust in his companions. He told me nearly ten years ago, when I first set up his website, that I could change anything which I thought needed correction and he would be pleased. Of course, I do not think I should change anything at all, except perhaps for minor typing or grammar corrections, whether or not I agree completely with him on any other subject. I mention all of this here as a testimony to Clifton's character. Clifton was always eager to learn as well as to teach, while he could also ardently defend his positions when he believed that criticisms were unfounded. But when criticism had merit, Clifton never rejected good evidence and he was always willing to reconsider and develop a new perspective. He was always a student as well as a teacher, eager to listen and slow to speak. We should all be like Clifton Emahiser.

Remembering Clifton Emahiser, Who is the Beast of the Field?

Too many Identity Christians take for granted the claim that the non-White races are the so-called “beasts of the field”. While in some passages non-Whites may be described as beasts, the word beast in those instances being used as a pejorative, that does not mean that they are the “beasts of the field” or “beasts of the earth” of the Creation account in Genesis. Alan Campbell, Eli James and others have continually made that claim, but it simply is not true. Then, more nefariously, Eli James and his cronies would call them “men” in relation to the New Testament, which is a Jew trick if I ever saw one.

Remembering Clifton this evening, we replayed a program I presented with him on June 10th of 2011, The Angels Chained in Darkness

Tonight we are mourning the death of our long-time friend and fellow-worker, Clifton Emahiser, who passed on Wednesday afternoon. This introduction is prerecorded for both programs this weekend, July 20th and 21st, 2018, and each evening I will rebroadcast a program which Clifton and I did together over the past several years.

Clifton Emahiser had been very sick for a long time. He had a stent put in his heart in 1998. One can go to his very first Watchman’s Teaching Letter, published in May of 1998, and the first thing he discussed was his heart attack that February, and his promise to devote the rest of his life to a teaching ministry. I remember him telling me often, even while I was still in prison, which is now at least ten years ago, about his intermittent spells of high blood pressure or low pulse rates.

Last August he had fallen in his garage at home, spent 17 hours on the floor, and had suffered some minor heart attacks then. The type of heart attacks to which Clifton was susceptible were not the sudden, massive ones that usually kill men immediately, but more subtle, long-lasting ones that leave one too weak to do much of anything but to have anxiety. He was told last August that he had more blocked arteries, but because of his age he was not a candidate for heart surgery.

This may be the first time ever that I discussed the same subject on Friday and Saturday of the same weekend. At least, if I ever did it before, I do not remember. But there are two reasons why I must do it tonight. First, because this material is halfway prepared before I type a word, and my time is worn thin these past few weeks. So I can prepare this in just a few hours and Clifton has already done much of the core research. Then secondly, because if I have to present an entire series from Clifton’s writings over a few short weeks, there are few subjects more important than this one.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 4: Origin of a Heresy

Rejecting the so-called 6th & 8th Day Creation heresy is an absolute necessity if Identity Christians are ever to have a clear and unshakable racial concept based on Scripture. We need a clear and unshakable racial concept if we are to survive the trials with which we are faced at the present time. We do not need any capitulation to Jewish concepts, and we do not need compromise with non-Adamic so-called ‘people’. As I have said many times in the past, Yahweh did not create any of these non-White races and call them “good”.

But rejecting the idea that Yahweh created non-Whites is not the same as saying that Adam was the first intelligent bipedal hominid on the planet. In Matthew chapter 13, Yahshua Christ explains the parable of the wheat and the tares, which informs us that Yahweh planted one kind: wheat, and that the tares were planted by the devil. But the devil had to be somewhere in order to be able to infiltrate the field and plant the tares. In that same place, Christ declared that “I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.” So we cannot imagine that the entire truth of this planet and its history are revealed in the book of Genesis, if Christ Himself informs us that there were things which were purposely withheld from men until the gospel of Christ was proclaimed.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 3: Adam’s Commission

We have been presenting this series, The Only True Adam, not only because I have been too busy with necessary but worldly tasks here at home to maintain my regular schedule, but also because we are constantly confronted both on social media and within our own real-world circle of associates with long-time Christian Identity adherents who believe that there were two distinct creations of man, each of them called adam, in the Genesis account in our Bibles.

The title of this series, first used by Clifton Emahiser several years ago, is a challenge to those people, that there is one – and only one – creation of Adamic man described in Genesis. The word adam is a collective noun referring to a race of men, as it says in Genesis 5:2 where we read “Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.” This is a clear reference to the day described in Genesis 1:26-27, and it uses identical language from that passage to describe that race. But the word adam can also be a proper noun, a name used to describe the first male of that race.