Open Forum: Some Chats With Our Friends 07-15-2017

At the beginning of the program I discussed some of the Deuteronomy chapter 28 curses of disobedience and how they are being fulfilled in Christendom today. Then we were joined by our friends Sonny Eanes, Travis Brady, Jerel Mosley, Danny Updegraff and others for conversations on topics such as awakening to Christian Israel Identity, David Duke, End Times prophecy and more... We thank everyone who participated.

David Burton on Money

David is the author of the the E. C. Riegel Blog

David Burton was born, raised and educated in Northern California. His father was a residential real estate broker for most of his life so David grew up around the house flipping business in California back in the glory days of the 1950's and 1960's. Upon graduation from University of the Pacific in 1973, he attended Cal State University, Hayward.

His first ambition, evidently following his childhood experience, was to become an architect or land developer. But upon graduation he went to work for IBM at their Santa Teresa Laboratory. Now David's background is in systems analysis and design, data management, funds management, portfolio management, economics and banking.

Neighbors and Strangers, and Ted Weiland and other supposed Christian Identity pastors who cannot tell them apart

Neighbors and Strangers, and Ted Weiland and other supposed Christian Identity pastors who cannot tell them apart.

The opening remarks concerning symbols and words have been moved to the Christogenea Forum.

The terms neighbor and stranger are among the most abused words found in the Holy Bible. The abuse is possible because these English words are void of the richer meanings of the Hebrew or Greek words from which they are translated. But of course, most all denominational Christians are unaware that the Hebrew or Greek terms have meanings which are far more specific than the English words which are typically employed to represent them. We have discussed these words in the past in certain of our Biblical commentaries, and now we will summarize those discussions here.

We will begin with the term neighbour. The following explanation is adapted from our presentations of Acts chapter 7 given here in June of 2013, and Romans chapter 13 given here in August of 2014.

It is fully evident that in this day and age most Christians are locked in the paradigms of this world, and they interpret their Bibles through those paradigms. But the patterns of thought were far different in ancient times, and it is there that we should endeavor to interpret Biblical language, in the context of the time that the words were used, as best as we can determine how words were originally employed. Christian attitudes concerning race and righteousness have been artificially manufactured by the international elite, which consists mostly of Jews, who control the media and publishing industries for over 200 years now. The concept of political correctness which holds sway over their minds is an invention of these global elites – these mostly Jewish masters who rule over them, that they may retain that rule without difficulty. So as we often like to say, the result is that today Christians worship Jews instead of Jesus.

Dumbing Down on David Duke

Dumbing Down on David Duke

In part because of our recent appearance on radio in New Orleans, lately we have been saying a lot about David Duke, or as I would prefer to call him, Daisy Duke. In reality, Duke is practically irrelevant, except that his career as a shill has been maintained on Stormfront for years, and is now propped up by the Daily Stormer, and unfortunately, too many of our friends and listeners are readers of both Stormfront and the Daily Stormer. Don Black and David Duke have already shared wives, and it is apparent that Andrew Anglin wants in on the action. There are much better alternatives for Christian Nationalist forums and Nationalist news on the Internet.

We have several disputes with Duke. Out of one side of his mouth he basically agrees with the Jews that the Protocols of Zion are a forgery, and out of the other he attempts to raise funds by selling a book titled The Illustrated Protocols of Zion. But one thing which we have long asserted makes David Duke a shill for world Jewry is this: that he insists that the Jews are the protagonists of the Old Testament, both the Hebrews and the Israelites, as they claim. This is not only untrue, but it is a dangerous lie, because allowing them this claim allows them to continue to thrive in the deception that they are the recipients of the blessings of Abraham. So long as scores of millions of mainstream Christians believe that is true, they will continue to bless the Jews, stuck in a dichotomy between two devils: the Jews themselves and their image of a god who could possibly bless such a wicked people in such a manner so that they can never be criticized for their wickedness.

The Justice in Mercy with Pastor Mark Downey

One of the biggest challenges we have in our ministry is getting even Identity Christians to accerpt that the Scripture is true, that "all Israel" means all Israel, and they all shall indeed be saved. We have explained this in many places, for example in Unity and Divisions, Scatterers and Gatherers, and our commentary on Romans chapter 5: Salvation is a Racial Phenomenon. Those who do not understand this vital point of Scripture are missing the larger picture of the purpose of God. We cannot begin to love our brethren, heal our race, or please our God without this understanding. 
 

Here Pastor Mark Downey of Kinsman Redeemer Ministries joins William Finck for a presentation and discussion of his latest sermon, The Justice in Mercy, where he begins to explore the subject of the mercy of God in the overall plan for the children of Israel.

 

Christian Identity and Social Media – a glimpse into the challenges we meet on Facebook

The notes to this program have now been posted at the new Christogenea Forum under the title Christian Identity and Social Media – a glimpse into the challenges we meet on Facebook
 

If our remarks in this program upset anyone, it was our intent to do so and we do not apologize.

Scatterers and Gatherers - Fellowship of God's Covenant People

This sermon was given at the Fellowship of God's Covenant People on Sunday, October 30th, 2016.

This visit to the Fellowship of God's Covenant People was decided on relatively short notice, and when I considered what I should present, I thought to speak on this subject of scattering and gathering upon being informed of certain events which took place recently here in this congregation. When I discussed my planned talk with Pastor Downey, he informed me that he himself had already said some of the same things which you may hear from me today. Mark even quoted from an essay on this topic which I had written a few years ago, and which I will incorporate into this discussion.

So when Mark asked me if I wanted to read what he had written, I politely declined, explaining that if I said the same things independently, that would better serve as a second witness to what he has already said here over the past few weeks. In my opinion, if we really do seek to please Christ and edify the body of Christ, we cannot entertain those who despise our core message. We cannot entertain those who in any way work contrary to our core message. None of the things which I say here today are for your admonishment. Rather, I would commend you for supporting Pastor Downey in his decision. Therefore I hope to say these things for your edification, that you have another assurance, knowing that you have made a necessary decision. I pray you continue to make such decisions in the future, because we should always expect that our faith may be tried in the fire.

Reflections on the Whorlando Homocaust, with Pastor Mark Downey

Reflections on the alleged Whorlando Homocaust [the supposed recent mass shooting of sodomites in Orlando] and the state of Christendom today, with Pastor Mark Downey. Finck's comments were based on his more recent article, There is no Pulse. Mark read from his recent sermon, Whorlando Changes Nothing

A Critique of Wesley Swift

A Critique of Wesley Swift, and why we must preserve his work: so first we explain our motives and methods at Christogenea.

I want to give people the opportunity to understand some of the logic behind Christogenea and how it evolved, so I have to sort of start from the beginning. Everything we do is carefully considered, whether we succeed or we fail. I remember telling Clifton Emahiser in a phone conversation, perhaps as early as 2005 or 2006, that one day I would put all of his material on a website of his own. At that time I wanted to call it john844.org. Of course, I was still in prison. There is currently a john844.org website which I created, but I did not use it for the purposes I had originally intended and in its current state it is still not complete. Then a short time later I thought of what I thought was a better term, and, so far as I remember, I kept it to myself.

When I was released from prison in December of 2008, I had a concept for a website for my own writing that I was going to call either Christogenea or Christogenos. I eventually settled on the former because I thought it better resembled its meaning in English, but I still like Christogenos a little more. I continue to retain ownership of both domain names.

I really thought that Christogenea would just be a small blog and a place for my essays and translations, and that I would keep my promise to Clifton. I never had any idea that it would grow into a collection of websites with over 12,000 pages, not counting the forum. I never imagined there would be a forum. By the end of April of 2009, I accomplished those things which I originally set out to do.

An Interview with a Friend: 911 and the Awakening to Jewish Treachery

This program has been pre-recorded for Christogenea Saturdays and will be broadcast at Christogenea.org on May 14th, 2016. Praise Yahweh, the God of true Israel, and thank you for listening. Today is Sunday, May 8th, and we will have a conversation with a good friend who has been researching the events of 911, among other things, for several years now.

The events of 911 have done more than any other event in modern history to wake people up to Jewish treachery, or at least to the idea that something is significantly wrong with society. But Jewish treachery is nothing new. It is a problem that Whites have been struggling with for seven thousand years. Most Whites cannot see it, because they never studied history at a level detailed enough to learn the patterns. The bottom line is this: Whites will never learn anything, and Whites will never come to terms with learning, until the Jew is fully eliminated from partaking in the discussion. Once a devil is allowed to enter the discourse, the well is polluted and people are going to be steered away from the truth.

A critical review of the sermon Let's Examine the Evidence, by Bertrand Comparet

Bertrand ComparetA Critical Review of Let’s Examine the Evidence, by Bertrand Comparet

This evening we are going to present a sermon by Bertrand Comparet titled Let’s Examine the Evidence. The purpose of the sermon is to prove through an assessment of certain of the parables of Yahshua Christ that the New Testament is consistent and contiguous with the Word of God in the Old Testament, and therefore that all of the promises of the Old still stand for the children of Israel under the New.

We are going to offer several of our own comments both supporting Comparet’s work, and sometimes criticizing and seeking to correct his work. As we have often said concerning Bertrand Comparet and other Christian Identity teachers of the past, we owe them a debt of gratitude for the wonderful work and excellent research which they did, blazing a trail for us in our quest for Biblical truth. But we also owe it to them and to ourselves to correct any errors they made along the way, and to further edify the work which they left us. We would be honored if in the future, others did that same thing with our own work.

If our text here varies slightly from what is posted at the Bertrand Comparet archive at Christogenea, it is only because we amended parts of Clifton’s original publication from a taped presentation made by Comparet himself, and then we realized that two different taped presentations of Comparet’s sermon exist in our archives, so the slight differences were probably made by Comparet himself.

The Christian Identity Vision, Part 2

Christogenea Saturdays, February 20th 2016

The hour is late, and all of the formerly Christian nations are overcome with the enemies of Christ. It is far too late to split hairs over the place of beasts in the kingdom of God, when it should be obvious to all that after 500 years of trying to civilize and make Christians of them they are still nothing but beasts.

How is Christian Identity relevant in today's society? How can we help to steer Christian Identity down a path which is useful to our nation and race in these last days? These are the core issues and objectives that we are once again going to discuss this evening with our friend and guest, Pastor Mark Downey of Kinsman Redeemer Ministries.

A Presentation of Clifton Emahiser's Telegony, Fact or Fiction?

This is a presentation of Clifton Emahiser's paper, Telegony, Fact or Fiction?

The following resources were mentioned during the program:

An issue of Applied Trophology in PDF which is unrelated to the program material, but we wanted to show that the publication once existed. Standard Process Laboratories was the publisher, and the company is still in business. [Click here for their product information on protomorphogens.]

The Etiology of Racism in Europe, which is evidently not the edition that Clifton had quoted for his article, but the original website no longer has that article.

In relation to the discussion of microchimerism:

A Study from the January, 1996 issue of the journal Medical Sciences entitled Male fetal progenitor cells persist in maternal blood for as long as 27 years postpartum

Another study on microchimerism which was cited is found at the website Science Daily, and is titled Male DNA commonly found in women’s brains, likely from prior pregnancy with a male fetus

Click here for William Finck's notes in Open Office format.

A critical review of the sermons A Faith For These Days and Lift Up Your Heads, by Bertrand Comparet

A critical review of the sermons A Faith for These Days and Lift Up Your Heads, by Bertrand Comparet, along with notes from Clifton Emahiser.

These sermons were transcribed from original recordings and prepared for publication by Clifton Emahiser several years ago, circa 2007. We are reviewing them with the hope of expounding on and edifying Comparet's work, as well as observing and hopefully even correcting some of his errors. As we have often noted, Bertrand Comparet left us many wonderful things, and we owe to him a debt of gratitude for helping to blaze the trail to Christian Identity truth well ahead of us. But we must improve upon the work of our teachers, give them credit where it is due, and honor them by correcting any mistakes they may have made, or in Comparet's case, because he dealt with prophecy in many of his sermons, correcting any interpretations which he was led to make because of the time in which he lived.

Tonight we chose these particular sermons, because we often hear exclamations of exasperation from our brethren, that for the survival of our people the peril is great, and the days certainly seem to be getting short. As Yahshua Christ Himself had said, as it is recorded in Matthew chapter 24, “22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.” So we always desire that they be shortened even further, and our Lord cometh quickly, but we may not attain our desire if it is not the will of our God. Therefore we must have patience, and we can indeed find consolation in His Word.

A Chat with Billy Roper

Left: Billy Roper with William Finck in Harrison, Arkansas, October 2015. 

A chat with Identity Christian and White Nationalist activist Billy Roper pre-recorded on Wednesday, December 30th, 2015.

Billy's books can be found at popular book-sellers such as Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble, Books-a-Million and Smashwords.

He is currently involved with Paul Mullet and Divine Truth Ministries. Here are the notes I made for the introduction:

A review of the sermons With Healing in His Wings and A Reward for the Righteous, by Bertrand Comparet

Christogenea Internet Radio December 25th, 2015

Just this past week two members of our extended family of friends and listeners have lost spouses. Our prayers and deepest sympathies are with them. We also have some dear friends who are sick, and our prayers are with them constantly. We pray for their well-being and recovery, but of course we also understand that the will of Yahweh our God is not always what we desire. So we honor Him whether our prayers prevail or not. We grieve upon the passing of a loved one, and we should. Of course we shall miss them. But as knowing Christians we also have a sure hope that the loss is no loss at all, but is rather only a temporary separation. As we read in 1 Corinthians chapter 15: “12 Now if Christ is proclaimed, that from of the dead He has been raised, how do some among you say that there is not a restoration of the dead? 13 Then if there is not a restoration of the dead, neither has Christ been raised; 14 And if Christ has not been raised, then our proclamation is empty, and empty is your faith. 15 Then we are also found to be false witnesses of Yahweh, because we have testified concerning Yahweh, that He raises the Anointed, which He does not raise if indeed then the dead are not raised. 16 Indeed if the dead are not raised, neither has Christ been raised, 17 but if Christ has not been raised, empty is your faith; you are still in your errors. 18 And then those that have been dying in Christ have been destroyed. 19 If only in this life have we had hope in Christ, we are the most pitiable of all mankind. [Even the pagans had always believed that the spirit of a man survived the physical body.] 20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruit of those who are sleeping. 21 Indeed since death is through a man, restoration of the dead is also through a man. 22 Just as in Adam all die, then in that manner in Christ all shall be produced alive.”

When I first began to study Christianity, after being introduced to Christian Identity, I thought long and hard for many months, comparing in my mind the materialist worldview of life and death to the transcendental worldview expressed in Scripture. As I progressed through reading the Bible cover-to-cover for the first time, I encountered the book of Ecclesiastes and I realized that the failure of the materialist worldview was addressed 3,000 years ago by Solomon. That book was written with a purposely cynical attitude because the author in his wisdom wanted to relate to us that there is no hope without our God, and, in turn, if there is a God then indeed we have hope. I then came to realize that all is indeed vanity, unless there be a God, and since both the wonders of Creation and the marvels of prophecy have the signature of our God all over them, then all is not vain, and the promises of Christianity must be true. Now I have no doubt at all, that the confidence expressed by Paul of Tarsus is true, and to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. With this we hope to encourage our brethren.

A critical review of the sermon Daniel's Fifth Kingdom, by Bertrand Comparet

Christogenea Internet Radio, Friday December 18th 2015.

Tonight we are going to present and discuss Bertrand Comparet's sermon, Daniel's Fifth Kingdom. We are doing this for several reasons. First, I have chosen to devote more time than usual concentrating on certain other tasks, mainly technical, and therefore I will not begin another in-depth Bible Study until early January, when we shall commence with our presentations of the epistles of Paul, picking up with his epistle to the Philippians. Secondly, last week we began addressing both futurism and preterism, which are methods of Biblical interpretation that more or less refuse to see, or even deny, the unfolding of the revelation of God throughout our actual history. Nowhere in the Old Testament prophets is a long-term unfolding of the revelation of God clearer than in the Book of Daniel.

Daniel has his critics, but of course they are nearly all Jews. Bertrand Comparet did another sermon which was a pretty good general address of some of those criticisms, entitled Daniel Freed From the Critic's Den, but because he only gave sermons they are not always well documented. So we hope one day to expound on that sermon also, and to add documentation. Ultimately, Daniel is proven to be true, and every Jew a liar. The Jews despise and reject Daniel not only because of his precise foretelling of the time of the advent of the Christ, but also because Daniel, along with the Revelation, prove conclusively that the Word of God is what we today would consider to be Euro-centric: that the White Christian nations of Europe are indeed the seed of Abraham and they are the nations which were promised to spring from his loins. That is also what Paul of Tarsus had taught throughout his epistles, and the truth of those assertions can be discovered in the classical histories and in archaeology.