Clifton Emahiser rebuts Charles Weisman

Christogenea Internet Radio, Friday at 8:00 PM Eastern

Clifton Emahiser rebuts Charles Weisman. In this recording, which has never before been published on the Internet, Clifton Emahiser takes turns playing a presentation by Charles Weisman disputing two-seedline, and then stopping the tape to answer Weisman's contentions.

Clifton called this a "mock debate", but it is actually more of a step-by-step rebuttal of Weisman's contentions. This may be the first recording which Clifton ever made, perhaps even as early as 1996 or 1997.

For that reason, some of Clifton's answers were not what they may have been as he advanced his studies over the subsequent years. His answer concerning Genesis 4:1 certainly would have been much more authoritative after 2004 or 2005. He nevertheless did very well defending many of our positions.

Listening to Weisman, he himself seems to have been answering two-seedline claims that were made in writing, perhaps by Clifton himself. While he may not have started his Watchman's Teaching Ministry by this time, Clifton was involved in correspondence and debate with many non-seedliners before he did so.

We thank our friends from the Gonyer family who made the presentation of this recording here possible.

Remembering Clifton Emahiser - His First Internet Radio Interview

This weekend we remember Clifton Emahiser by replaying his first appearance on Internet Radio.

Clifton's fleshly body was committed to the earth this morning in Tiffin, Ohio, the same town in which he was born in 1928. We thank all of our friends who attended the brief funeral, who came from Indiana, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania to be with us this day.

The program we present tonight was first broadcast on Talkshoe on April 18th, 2009, days after Clifton's 82nd birthday.

At left: Clifton at his dining room table in his home in Fostoria, Ohio, October, 2015.

Remembering Clifton Emahiser - Eulogies and Memories

A Eulogy for Clifton Emahiser

It is just over twenty years ago that Clifton Emahiser decided to start his Watchman's Teaching Ministry, and my name was added to his list of subscribers by a mutual friend. He decided to begin his endeavor while he was hospitalized following a heart attack, in February of 1998. With his first issue he said that he was committed to publishing his teaching letters for as long as he lived, saying that “Since I came down with a heart attack February 6, 1998, I have dedicated the rest my life (at least what there is of it) to full time writing for the Almighty.” He very nearly lived up to that promise, and I am certain he never expected to complete 232 monthly editions, spanning 19 years and four months from when he had started. There are still a couple of papers Clifton wrote as late as this past winter, which I must retrieve from his files and evaluate for publication.

Near the end of the first year of his publications, I wrote him with a disagreement in reference to a particular historical subject. Often, pastors and Bible teachers who are challenged concerning such things are offended, but not Clifton. Rather than be upset over my criticism, rather than be angry, Clifton was more than happy to study what I had written him, and to discuss and reconsider his position after investigating the matter further. So we developed a working relationship and an enduring friendship over the subsequent years.

Clifton was incredibly humble, he loved hearing and discussing my critiques of his work, and over the eighteen years that I edited for him, he was always happy if I found anything that could be improved or corrected. Clifton was also humble enough to trust in his companions. He told me nearly ten years ago, when I first set up his website, that I could change anything which I thought needed correction and he would be pleased. Of course, I do not think I should change anything at all, except perhaps for minor typing or grammar corrections, whether or not I agree completely with him on any other subject. I mention all of this here as a testimony to Clifton's character. Clifton was always eager to learn as well as to teach, while he could also ardently defend his positions when he believed that criticisms were unfounded. But when criticism had merit, Clifton never rejected good evidence and he was always willing to reconsider and develop a new perspective. He was always a student as well as a teacher, eager to listen and slow to speak. We should all be like Clifton Emahiser.

Remembering Clifton Emahiser, Who is the Beast of the Field?

Remembering Clifton Emahiser, Who is the Beast of the Field?

Too many Identity Christians take for granted the claim that the non-White races are the so-called “beasts of the field”. While in some passages non-Whites may be described as beasts, the word beast in those instances being used as a pejorative, that does not mean that they are the “beasts of the field” or “beasts of the earth” of the Creation account in Genesis. Alan Campbell, Eli James and others have continually made that claim, but it simply is not true. Then, more nefariously, Eli James and his cronies would call them “men” in relation to the New Testament, which is a Jew trick if I ever saw one.

Remembering Clifton Emahiser, Angels Chained in Darkness

Download link: CHR20110610-AngelsChained.mp3

Remembering Clifton this evening, we replayed a program I presented with him on June 10th of 2011, The Angels Chained in Darkness

Tonight we are mourning the death of our long-time friend and fellow-worker, Clifton Emahiser, who passed on Wednesday afternoon. This introduction is prerecorded for both programs this weekend, July 20th and 21st, 2018, and each evening I will rebroadcast a program which Clifton and I did together over the past several years.

Clifton Emahiser had been very sick for a long time. He had a stent put in his heart in 1998. One can go to his very first Watchman’s Teaching Letter, published in May of 1998, and the first thing he discussed was his heart attack that February, and his promise to devote the rest of his life to a teaching ministry. I remember him telling me often, even while I was still in prison, which is now at least ten years ago, about his intermittent spells of high blood pressure or low pulse rates.

Last August he had fallen in his garage at home, spent 17 hours on the floor, and had suffered some minor heart attacks then. The type of heart attacks to which Clifton was susceptible were not the sudden, massive ones that usually kill men immediately, but more subtle, long-lasting ones that leave one too weak to do much of anything but to have anxiety. He was told last August that he had more blocked arteries, but because of his age he was not a candidate for heart surgery.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 4: Origin of a Heresy

This may be the first time ever that I discussed the same subject on Friday and Saturday of the same weekend. At least, if I ever did it before, I do not remember. But there are two reasons why I must do it tonight. First, because this material is halfway prepared before I type a word, and my time is worn thin these past few weeks. So I can prepare this in just a few hours and Clifton has already done much of the core research. Then secondly, because if I have to present an entire series from Clifton’s writings over a few short weeks, there are few subjects more important than this one.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 4: Origin of a Heresy

Rejecting the so-called 6th & 8th Day Creation heresy is an absolute necessity if Identity Christians are ever to have a clear and unshakable racial concept based on Scripture. We need a clear and unshakable racial concept if we are to survive the trials with which we are faced at the present time. We do not need any capitulation to Jewish concepts, and we do not need compromise with non-Adamic so-called ‘people’. As I have said many times in the past, Yahweh did not create any of these non-White races and call them “good”.

But rejecting the idea that Yahweh created non-Whites is not the same as saying that Adam was the first intelligent bipedal hominid on the planet. In Matthew chapter 13, Yahshua Christ explains the parable of the wheat and the tares, which informs us that Yahweh planted one kind: wheat, and that the tares were planted by the devil. But the devil had to be somewhere in order to be able to infiltrate the field and plant the tares. In that same place, Christ declared that “I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.” So we cannot imagine that the entire truth of this planet and its history are revealed in the book of Genesis, if Christ Himself informs us that there were things which were purposely withheld from men until the gospel of Christ was proclaimed.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 3: Adam's Commission

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 3: Adam’s Commission

We have been presenting this series, The Only True Adam, not only because I have been too busy with necessary but worldly tasks here at home to maintain my regular schedule, but also because we are constantly confronted both on social media and within our own real-world circle of associates with long-time Christian Identity adherents who believe that there were two distinct creations of man, each of them called adam, in the Genesis account in our Bibles.

The title of this series, first used by Clifton Emahiser several years ago, is a challenge to those people, that there is one – and only one – creation of Adamic man described in Genesis. The word adam is a collective noun referring to a race of men, as it says in Genesis 5:2 where we read “Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.” This is a clear reference to the day described in Genesis 1:26-27, and it uses identical language from that passage to describe that race. But the word adam can also be a proper noun, a name used to describe the first male of that race.

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 2: ADAM in the Hebrew in Genesis

The Only True Adam of Genesis, Part 2: ADAM in the Hebrew in Genesis
 

It never ceases to amaze me, how many times I may state something that is based upon at least two or three witnesses in Scripture, along with studies of word meanings in the original languages, along with contextual support, and often even historical support, yet people simply dismiss it because it goes against something which they were taught in the past. They are so confident in their supposed knowledge that they absolutely refuse to consider the possibility that they may be mistaken. They are so emotionally attached to their teachers, who are only fallible men, that they will not even examine the facts which underlie a contrary opinion.

Nowhere in Scripture do I see this phenomenon more often than in discussions of the creation of Adam which is described in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. Many people who learned their Christian Identity from Bertrand Comparet, Wesley Swift, or Sheldon Emry are so certain that there was an 8th-Day Creation of Adam distinct from the explicit 6th-Day Creation that they simply refuse to listen to any contrary evidence whatsoever. There is nothing wrong with being loyal to our teachers, but real loyalty would require studying behind them, and being able to prove everything which they told us for ourselves. For this Christ Himself never said “just take My word for it”, but rather He always said “search the scriptures”. Real loyalty would also require a dialogue when different results are obtained through that study. This is why there are science labs in high schools, so that students can prove through demonstration the things which they hear in the lectures, rather than merely taking those things for granted. If you are the only student whose metal rod did not expand when it was heated, you might have some great new discovery, or perhaps you only made an error in your measurements, and that is much more likely to be the case.

The Only True Adam of Genesis Chapters 1 and 2

The Only True Adam of Genesis Chapters 1 and 2

This evening I am going to present a pair of short essays from Clifton Emahiser, which were originally titled The Only True Adam of Genesis 1:26-27 & 2:7, parts 1 and 2. Some of the comments and data that I may add to these articles as we proceed, I have already discussed at length in various podcasts and articles at Christogenea, but especially in Part 1 of my own Pragmatic Genesis series. Clifton himself has another article on this topic, which he had written some time later, titled "Adam" in the Hebrew in Genesis, and in that initial segment of Pragamatic Genesis I expanded on that article.

I am not going to get into much depth on Hebrew grammar this evening, which is the main topic of Clifton’s other paper and that first part of Pragmatic Genesis. But here I will only say that adding a preposition or a definite article to a noun does not by itself make that noun represent something different from what it represents without the preposition or article. The people who push the idea of two distinct Adamic creations attempt to do just that, and by it they display their own ignorance.

The Road to Here

The Road to Here. A chat with some friends, Ferlin, Doug, Sonny and Brett, how they came to Christian Identity, their influences and some of the opinions they formed along the way.

We thank them for their edification and encouragement.

A Critical Review of Bertrand Comparet’s Sermon I COME AS A THIEF

A Critical Review of Bertrand Comparet’s Sermon I COME AS A THIEF

Here we are going to present a critical review of Bertrand Comparet’s Sermon I Come as a Thief. Doing this, we may be especially hard on Comparet for his failed view of eschatology, but before we criticize him we will also admit that, if we had lived in his same era, we too may have fallen into the trap which he did, believing that the end of the age was going to come to its conclusion in the Cold War with the Soviet Union and a nuclear conflagration and invasion of the United States by Communist hordes.

But we now see that the Communist hordes were here all along, and they have already come to control practically everything of note in America. They are called Jews, and have deceived us with party politics and capitalist internationalism while making our Western nations safe for Marxism and a flood of non-White so-called immigrants. These devils were still under much deeper cover in the 1960’s when Comparet was writing, and even he did not see what was truly going to come.

Does Prosperity Gospel Belong in Christian Identity? And Other Topics

Does Prosperity Gospel Belong in Christian Identity?

To begin this evening, I am compelled to talk about a topic that I really do not like to talk about at all. But because there always seems to be some sort of controversy swirling around what I do and say at Christogenea, sometimes I am compelled to discuss certain things. I like to think that people choose to support my ministry because they understand that Christian Identity is truth, that it is the only truth, and that it needs to be set on a solid academic foundation from which it can be disseminated to more and more of our White European race, to those for whom the Faith is intended. We undertake that endeavor with the hope that eventually this truth prevails among our people. Supporting my ministry, people are showing their faith in my work, a vote of confidence in my ability to contribute in that endeavor.

Building that academic foundation takes a lot of work in research and writing, and then disseminating the results requires a lot of cost and a lot of labor for websites and servers and related expenses. Christogenea has in excess of a thousand dollars a month in such expenses, although that cost also covers a lot of other Christian Identity and White Nationalist websites. But this is not a fund-raiser, or an appeal for funds. Rather, it is to set the record straight about a few things, because of the divisions we have had within our Christian Identity community over this past year.

Interview with Patrick Little, Senate Candidate

Tonight we interview US Senate Candidate Patrick Little. Afterwards we discuss Patrick's candidacy and the challenge and necessity of bringing the truth of Jewish Identity to light.

Hours before this interview was posted at Christogenea, Patrick Little was ejected from the California GOP convention. The state GOP spokesman, Matt Fleming, who is obviously a cuck for the devil, issued a mealy-mouthed statement about "religious bigotry" that has nothing to do with Patrick Little's contention concerning Jews in American government.

Waiting on the Lord, why do we have divisions?

Waiting on the Lord, why do we have divisions?

This evening I am going to ask, Why do we have divisions? And I am also going to answer that question, at least in some respects. At the same time, we must know what it means to wait on the Lord: that we cannot take the vengeance of Yahweh our God into our own hands. All of this shall hopefully serve to illustrate both the vanity and futility of man. And of course, when I say “we”, I refer to Identity Christians, or at least to those Identity Christians who appreciate our work here at Christogenea.

The other day, as we were on our way home from Kentucky, several friends tried to pull me into an argument on social media. At the start of it was a post and some errant conclusions which were based upon a mistranslation of Luke 12:49. So the result was an argument and a blow-up among friends who are otherwise very helpful to our common cause. I hate to see that. But I never got to read the ensuing arguments, since it is hard to read and watch for the cops while driving 85 miles an hour down the interstate.

So this evening I thought to do a program discussing several topics, and Luke 12:49 will be one of them. I am not taking sides, or trying to favor any of my friends. The arguing was deleted before I could respond to the calls for my opinion, and perhaps that is all the better. I only seek the truth of the matters at hand, and hope that all of my friends are willing to follow in that endeavor. This same thing also often happens in the Christogenea Forum, and I hope that some of our friends there also take note. Even there we are constantly beset with petty divisions.

Eyes That See - Pastor Mark Downey

On Monday morning we received a phone call from his wife Debbi informing us that Mark Downey, a long-time friend and fellow Christian Identity pastor, had died in northern Kentucky. So Melissa and I are headed north once again, where we shall probably stay through the Sunday services at the Fellowship of God’s Covenant People. Mark had been diagnosed with late-stage cancer of the lungs about 6 months ago, and he and Debbi did everything they could to combat the disease. Mark fought a good fight, but with such a late discovery of the illness, it is evident that Yahweh God had different plans.

So tonight, as we visit with Debbi and attend whatever services are planned for Mark, we decided to offer a memorial for him by broadcasting his final sermons, a two-part series titled Eyes That See, which were delivered at the Fellowship of God’s Covenant People on November 2nd and 19th of 2017. In the second part, which is much shorter than the first, it sadly becomes evident that Mark has already begun to lose his voice, a condition which was caused by his illness. However his completion of the sermon is nevertheless a testament to his character and fortitude.

Friends, Faces and Facades - The Truth Behind the Failure of Identity Struggle and SonNetShirts

We are not comfortable with drama, we dislike being caught up in personal controversy, and we really do not like talking about people in the manner in which we are about to talk. But a shepherd's job is not only to feed the sheep, he must also occasionally run off the wolves. The wolves don't like being run off, so they cause drama when they resist. Sometimes we have to fulfill that function, whether we like it or not.

Sadly, it happens quite often, that there are people whom we think that we know, and may even think that we love, but when we really get to see them for what they are, we find that they are not the people that we know at all. Sometimes, even when people seem to support our cause, they are really only doing it in order to get more support for themselves, to draw people off after themselves. It is often difficult to tell who is a sincere fellow-worker, and who is looking to subvert a cause for their own gain. But whether they are sick or sinful sheep, or whether they are actually wolves in sheep's clothing, is often difficult for us to tell. So we must judge them by their works, and let Yahweh our God sort them out in the end.

Recently we have had some divisions in our own fellowship, and our wider Christogenea community. So accusations have been made on many sides. Often, accusations are made so that a person can cover for his own crimes, hoping that enough people believe his lies that he might seem credible to others. Some of the things we have experienced this year really disappointed and even sickened us. I was forced to close a couple of websites which I owned or managed for others, because the men who provided the content for them began preaching Napoleon Hill and Neville Goddard in place of the Gospel of Christ. These men, sputtering some ridiculous so-called “law of attraction”, started uttering prophesies of their own personal enrichment and self-aggrandizement, while calling themselves pastors. They are still doing that on Youtube and elsewhere, but they are certainly no longer going to do it at Christogenea.

Christian Identity: What Difference Does it Make?

Christian Identity: What Difference Does it Make?

It is no mistake that 2000 years ago, Christianity spread and was accepted by tribes of White Europeans as they encountered it. It is no mistake that for the last 1500 years Europe has been predominantly Christian. Christianity had spread not only to both Greece and Rome, but also to Britain and other points in Europe as early as the middle of the first century. Tribes in Gaul were converting to Christianity in the second century. By the third century, if not sooner, Germanic tribes of the Goths and Alans had accepted Christianity. All of this was long before the official acceptance of Christianity began with Constantine the Great, the Edict of Toleration and the Council of Nicaea.

To mock Christianity today is to mock a hundred generations of our ancestors. People who mock Christianity think they know something better about our past than their own ancestors, the people who actually lived in those times many centuries ago. The truth is that the people who mock Christianity know little-to-nothing about the world of the past and the circumstances under which their ancestors ultimately accepted Christianity.

There are many incongruities in the perception of the people who mock Christianity today. On one hand they claim that it is a “cuck” religion, and on the other they complain that their ancestors were forced into Christianity by Christians. So they admit that their own ancestors were weaker than the “cucks” they despise. On one hand they claim that Christianity is an effeminate religion, and a Jewish religion, but then they complain that their ancestors were forced into it by Christians. So they admit that their ancestors were weaker than effeminates and Jews. All the while, they proclaim the “might is right” mantra of their own neo-paganism, while professing that their weak ancestors, forced to subject to Christianity, were somehow treated unfairly! Those who mock Christianity are simply too stupid to realize all of these cognitive disconnects, and there are many more that we won’t get into here. We already presented them here a few years ago, in two podcasts titled White Nationalist Cognitive Dissonance.

The Phony No-Satan Dogma, Part 5, with Clifton Emahiser

Once again, Clifton Emahiser joins William Finck to discuss a series of essays addressing those who would claim that there is no such an entity as Satan.

Clifton's original series, found at his website, was written in late 2006 and through 2007.

The Phony No-Satan Dogma, Part 4, with Clifton Emahiser

Once again, Clifton Emahiser joins William Finck to discuss a series of essays addressing those who would claim that there is no such an entity as Satan.

Clifton's original series, found at his website, was written in late 2006 and through 2007.

A Critical Review of Bertrand Comparet's Who Is Your God?

A Critical Review of Bertrand Comparet's Who Is Your God?

In my daily conversation and Social Media activities I frequently encounter situations which remind me of the fact that many old-time Christian Identity people do not like me, and do not like Clifton Emahiser, and for that reason they do not communicate with me and actually shun our work. This is true, of course, of all of those who deny Two-Seedline and the racial message of the Scriptures. But sadly, to me, it is also true of many who do understand the issue of race in the context of Scripture, and who would rather cling to the personalities of the past rather than examine and refine or correct their errors. They would rather cling to "muh Swift" or "muh Comparet" and remain in their errors, and that is actually a more subtle form of idolatry. They despise us for daring to challenge their old-time British Israel / Christian Identity dogma rather than study and consider what we have written. But in spite of the contention and the obstacles, our ministry grows each year. We pray that we remain on this course. We are not going to succumb to any desire for popularity, but rather we hope to get more and more of our brethren to understand this message in the face of adversity.

So here is yet another critique of Bertrand Comparet. We do this not to tear down one of our own teachers, but to show our appreciation for him while at the same time seeking to improve on his work, correcting things which must be corrected and, if we can, edifying places where he had left room for edification. We are all men, and all of us have room for improvement, or mistakes that may be corrected now or in the future. This printing of Comparet's sermon was transcribed and edited by Clifton Emahiser, and therefore we shall also include Clifton's critical notes in this presentation this evening.